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The Verdict: Turn your league into a dynastyby Michael SteinJanuary 16, 2013 The Court wants to hear your comments on whether you concur or dissent with the verdict by sending an email to michael.stein @ fantasyjudgment.com, or find us on Facebook and Twitter @FantasyJudgment. Comments
AtomicDumpling said...
I agree that dynasty leagues are the ultimate form of fantasy baseball. There is a lot more strategy and skill involved in building a team that can dominate a league over the long term. I agree with the previous poster, who noted that a dynasty league is a league where you keep ALL of your players each year. A keeper league is a league where you only keep some of the players. Adding a minor league roster to your dynasty league adds a whole new level of strategy and intrigue. It is important to get rid of any sort of trade veto system in a dynasty league. With all the different strategies in play in dynasty league there can be all sorts of disagreements regarding player values and it results in lots of perfectly rational trades getting vetoed and starting arguments. For a dynasty league to last a long time you need to eliminate arguments by making all trades final. If you think a trade was lopsided you should have gotten to the victim first. Trade vetoes ruin leagues and most serious fantasy baseball players avoid leagues that allow vetoes like the plague. Posted 01/16 at 09:47 PM
Philly said...
I disagree on the trade veto. We set our dynasty league (on Fantrax) at a 50% veto vote, and our league has 30 teams, so 15 of them would have to veto a trade. How can that spoil legit trades? Unless 15 people are in cahoots ... not likely. Posted 01/17 at 05:01 AM
AtomicDumpling said...
I think you misunderstood. The point I was making about trade vetoes is that they cause arguments and cause people to quit the league. Either someone gets mad that their competitor benefited from a supposedly lopsided trade, or else somebody gets mad because other owners vetoed his trade. Either way it can cause a league to break up. If you allow trade vetoes then you will have a high rate of turnover in your league. Turnover destroys dynasty leagues. For a dynasty league to work you need all the owners to stick around for a decade or more, arguing causes people to leave. Just a piece of advice from a long-time dynasty league player. Nothing ruins the excitement of the game more than having your trade vetoed by other jealous owners. Arguing over trades ruins leagues. Serious fantasy baseball players don’t play in leagues that allow other owners to decide what they can and cannot do with their own teams. In dynasty leagues, where you have people using widely differing strategies, different owners will have widely different opinions on player values, which leads to people thinking trades are lopsided when in fact they make perfect sense. People getting trades vetoed often causes them to leave the league. I have seen it happen time and time again. When we switched all three of our dynasty leagues over to no-veto leagues the arguing stopped. All trades are final. No whining and crying because someone got a good deal. It works, believe me. Trade vetoes are a relic of random Internet fantasy football leagues for beginners. If you have a commissioner there is no need for trade voting. It is a sign of a poorly-run league. Posted 01/17 at 05:47 AM
jj said...
I almost agree with the no trade veto voting in keeper leagues This being said, I think having rules that try to ‘even out’ trades by making sure both sides are truly affected by the trade. Who wants a first place team getting Verlander for some random highly touted prospect that the other team may or may not keep. It doesn’t seem fair to affect the league this year and then not keep the guy next year. so I think there are some rules that need to be made before saying ‘all trades are final’. Posted 01/17 at 04:44 PM
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there is nothing wrong with turning a league into a keeper (i have always used dynasty to describe leagues where you keep everyone on your roster). the single biggest thing that kills leagues that i see all the time is that keepers should be drafted as keepers. DO NOT turn a league that already drafted into a keeper/dynasty. Player values are very different. In a 1 year league Justin Upton is likely going in the 3rd or 4th rounds, in a keeper he is a tail end of the first round guy (same with Heyward and a few others). Trout easy passes braun in value, ect.
Also decide on the number of keepers before the draft. if you keep 20, you may want to grab oscar tavares in the 12th round, but if you keep 3, he is way too far away to stash.