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World Baseball Classic Articles


Following are the one hundred most recent articles for the category World Baseball Classic .

05/25/2012: And That Happened

by Craig Calcaterra

05/25/2012: NL Waiver Wire: Week 7

by Nick Fleder

05/25/2012: AL Waiver Wire:  Week 7

by Josh Shepardson

05/25/2012: Roger and the Babe

by Frank Jackson

05/25/2012: 75th anniversary: Mickey Cochrane gets beaned

by Chris Jaffe

05/25/2012: Card Corner: 1972 Topps: Duke Sims

by Bruce Markusen

05/24/2012: Visualization: Vertical spray chart

by Dan Lependorf

05/24/2012: Trader’s corner: reader’s choice edition

by Mark Himmelstein

05/24/2012: Which starters have lost the most velocity since 2011?

by Jason Dunbar

05/24/2012: Don Drysdale’s two-for-one special

by Shane Tourtellotte

05/23/2012: The daily grind 5-23

by Brad Johnson

05/23/2012: And That Happened

by Craig Calcaterra

05/23/2012: The tragedy of expectations in baseball

by Chris Lund

05/23/2012: BOB:  Athletics stadium limbo

by Brian Borawski

05/23/2012: 10th anniversary: Shawn Green’s big day

by Chris Jaffe

05/23/2012: The real replacement level of starting pitching

by Derek Ambrosino

05/22/2012: The daily grind 5-21

by Brad Johnson

05/22/2012: And That Happened

by Craig Calcaterra

05/22/2012: Which lineups should be feared?

by Paul Singman

05/22/2012: 10th anniversary: Giambi-Mabry trade

by Chris Jaffe

05/22/2012: THT Awards

by John Barten

05/22/2012: The virtual 1969-76 Yankees, Red Sox, and Indians (Part 3:  1970-71)

by Steve Treder

05/22/2012: The Verdict: Collusion - if it quacks like a duck…

by Michael Stein

05/22/2012: Has Daniel Bard been squeezed?

by Troy Patterson

05/21/2012: The daily grind 5-21

by Brad Johnson

05/21/2012: AL West: Oh, the storylines

by David Wade

05/21/2012: The fall of Mickey Hatcher

by Steven Booth

05/21/2012: Default hero

by Chris Jaffe

05/21/2012: This week in (fantasy) baseball 5/14-5/20

by Karl de Vries

05/21/2012: And That Happened

by Craig Calcaterra

05/21/2012: 20th anniversary: Angels bus crash

by Chris Jaffe

05/21/2012: Closer watch

by Paul Singman

05/20/2012: The daily grind 5-20

by Brad Johnson

05/18/2012: Kerry Wood career highlights

by Chris Jaffe

05/18/2012: The daily grind 5-18

by Brad Johnson

05/18/2012: NL Waiver Wire: Week 6

by Nick Fleder

05/18/2012: AL Waiver Wire:  Week 6

by Josh Shepardson

05/18/2012: And That Happened

by Craig Calcaterra

05/18/2012: Lopsided batter/pitcher match-ups of the 1990s and 2000s

by Chad Evely

05/18/2012: Cooperstown Confidential: The tale of Charley Lau

by Bruce Markusen

05/17/2012: And That Happened

by Craig Calcaterra

05/17/2012: The daily grind 5-17

by Brad Johnson

05/17/2012: The Oklahoma territorial imperative

by Frank Jackson

05/17/2012: The (baseball) power of the Oval Office

by Richard Barbieri

05/17/2012: 10th anniversary: Giambi’s walk-off slam

by Chris Jaffe

05/16/2012: The daily grind 5-16

by Brad Johnson

05/16/2012: Brett Lawrie, the ump and the human element

by Chris Lund

05/16/2012: And That Happened

by Craig Calcaterra

05/16/2012: BOB: Braun arbitrator gets the sack

by Brian Borawski

05/15/2012: The daily grind 5-15

by Brad Johnson

05/15/2012: Save tonight

by Paul Singman

05/15/2012: And That Happened

by Craig Calcaterra

05/15/2012: The virtual 1969-76 Yankees, Red Sox, and Indians (Part 2:  1969-70)

by Steve Treder

05/15/2012: Mythbusting - closer edition

by Derek Ambrosino

05/15/2012: THT Awards

by John Barten

05/15/2012: Centennial anniversary: Ty Cobb beats up a cripple

by Chris Jaffe

05/15/2012: Bryan LaHair is Cubs’ silver lining so far

by Troy Patterson

05/15/2012: Battling through injuries

by Dave Shovein

05/14/2012: Chris Sale and his faulty elbow

by Kyle Boddy

05/14/2012: The daily grind 5-14

by Brad Johnson

05/14/2012: This week in (fantasy) baseball 5/7-5/13

by Karl de Vries

05/14/2012: The state of the NL Central

by Jason Linden

05/14/2012: 50 years from the Mets junk drawer

by Chris Jaffe

05/14/2012: And That Happened

by Craig Calcaterra

05/14/2012: 90th anniversary: Last time the Phillies franchise at sea level

by Chris Jaffe

05/11/2012: And That Happened

by Craig Calcaterra

05/11/2012: NL Waiver Wire: Week 5

by Nick Fleder

05/11/2012: AL Waiver Wire:  Week 5

by Josh Shepardson

05/11/2012: What is the best swing-and-miss pitch in baseball right now?

by Jason Dunbar

05/11/2012: 20,000 days since Dodgers announce their move to LA

by Chris Jaffe

05/11/2012: Lopsided batter/pitcher match-ups of the 1980s

by Chad Evely

05/11/2012: Picking up pitchers

by Paul Singman

05/11/2012: Card Corner: 1972 Topps: Jim “Mudcat” Grant

by Bruce Markusen

05/10/2012: Mo’s wins

by Dave Studeman

05/10/2012: No two games alike?  Sure, but these are the closest.

by Jonathan Falk

05/10/2012: And That Happened

by Craig Calcaterra

05/10/2012: The daily grind 5-10

by Brad Johnson

05/10/2012: THT review: Great Hitting Pitchers

by David Wade

05/10/2012: The pre-Angelic Autry

by Frank Jackson

05/10/2012: Did Matt Kemp just have one of the best Aprils ever?

by Dan Lependorf

05/10/2012: Ranking the new closers

by Mike Silver

05/09/2012: A job with your name on it

by Dave Studeman

05/09/2012: The daily grind 5-9

by Brad Johnson

05/09/2012: And That Happened

by Craig Calcaterra

05/09/2012: Trader’s corner: week six

by Mark Himmelstein

05/09/2012: Day for night

by Shane Tourtellotte

05/09/2012: Last week’s record

by Jonathan Falk

05/09/2012: BOB:  MLB looks at alliance with NCAA

by Brian Borawski

05/09/2012: Make them notice: Andy Dirks

by Paul Singman

05/08/2012: The daily grind 5-8

by Brad Johnson

05/08/2012: And That Happened

by Craig Calcaterra

05/08/2012: Long view

by Derek Ambrosino

05/08/2012: THT Awards

by John Barten

05/08/2012: The virtual 1969-76 Yankees, Red Sox, and Indians (Part 1: 1968-69)

by Steve Treder

05/08/2012: 10,000 days ago: Marge Schott becomes Reds owner

by Chris Jaffe

05/08/2012: How to be in first in Tout Wars

by Paul Singman

05/08/2012: The Verdict: the court rejects a disputed fantasy baseball trade

by Michael Stein

05/07/2012: Ubaldo Jimenez: A quick mechanics review

by Kyle Boddy

05/07/2012: The daily grind 5-7

by Brad Johnson

05/07/2012: This week in (fantasy) baseball 4/30-5/6

by Karl de Vries

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July 11, 2010

The palm ball

Fernando Rodney throws a circle change-up
Fernando Rodney throws a change-up against the Dodgers on June 13, 2010. (Icon/SMI)
On Friday night, Rob Neyer tweeted the following, "Fernando Rodney supposedly throws a palm ball. Is he the only one?"

I knew Trevor Hoffman threw the palm ball, but I wasn't sure about Fernando Rodney or anyone else. I did a bit of research, and it turns out that Rodney does not throw the palm ball. He throws a circle change-up, using a grip very similar to the one that Greg Maddux used. There's another picture of Rodney's change-up grip here.

Rodney wraps his fingers around the ball, whereas the practitioners of the palm ball leave the index finger and middle finger off the ball so that ball sits more on the palm of the hand and doesn't get as much spin from the fingertips.

Steven Ellis has the best site out there for describing pitching grips, and he has a post describing various change-up grips. That post referenced an article by John Schlegel about Trevor Hoffman with a great picture of Hoffman's palm ball grip.

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Trevor Hoffman throws a palm ball against the Brewers on May 27, 2007. (Icon/SMI)Trevor Hoffman throws a palm ball against the against the Pirates on July 21, 2009. (Icon/SMI)

The fingers around the ball on the circle change-up grip, like that used by Rodney above, apply sidespin to the baseball as the pitcher pronates his forearm on release. (Thanks to Matt Lentzner for this explanation.) In the palm ball grip, with fewer fingers around the ball and gripping it less tightly, not as much sidespin gets applied to the ball.

Thus we see that the circle change thrown by a pitcher like Rodney has a spin axis that is tilted over by an additional 25-30 degrees relative to the fastball. On the other hand, the palm ball thrown by Hoffman only has its spin axis tilted over by 10-15 degrees relative to the fastball. This gives Rodney's change-up more sinking action due to spin than Hoffman's.

The following graphs, courtesy of the Texas Leaguers PITCHf/x site, show the pitch velocity versus the spin axis angle for the pitches thrown by Fernando Rodney and Trevor Hoffman in 2010. Fastballs are shown in red, and change-ups are shown in purple.

Rodney velocity vs. spin axis angle

Hoffman velocity vs. spin axis angle

There may be other current major leaguers besides Hoffman that throw the palm ball, but I'm not aware of any. Harry Pavlidis pointed out one other recent palm-baller to me, though: Cody Cillo of Italy, who threw in the 2009 World Baseball Classic. Josh Kalk also wrote about him here at THT.

Cody Cillo
Cody Cillo pitches for Team Italy against the Nationals in 2009. (Icon/SMI)

Is there anyone else who throws the palm ball?



Posted by: Mike Fast


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