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Petition to change the Hall’s voting

by Dave Studeman
January 07, 2013

We've started a Change.org petition to ask the Hall of Fame Board of Directors to change their voting process. It's related to my article today (Time to push the reset button) and can be found at this link:

Petition to Change the Hall of Fame's Voting Process

If you believe that the Hall's voting process needs to changed, please sign the petition. Send a message.

Dave was called a "national treasure" by Rob Neyer. Seriously. Comments about this article can be sent to him through the miracle of e-mail.

Comments

Stephen Johnson said...

Been saying for more than 20 years to change Baseball Hall of Fame voting process. MY SUGGESTION pick board (15 to 20 people) of current Hall of Famers and current or former MLB managers. A much better evaluation of talent, character,and knowing the game.

Posted 01/07  at  01:03 PM
Greg Simons said...

Stephen,

I’m not sure a group of managers and current HOFers would do better.  Based on what they’ve said in the past, some current enshrinees (Reggie, Schmidt) seem to have a higher standard for election that the BBWAA does.  There’s a financial side to this, too, as more HOFers could dilute the value of their signatures.  It’s a slippery issue.

Also, based on his many anti-sabermetric rants, Joe Morgan seems to have little idea why he was such a tremendous player.

Posted 01/07  at  01:20 PM
Stephen Johnson said...

Greg,
Can’t believe that statement, Joe Morgan was a smart and good ballplayer.

The suggestion having a board of current Hall of Famers and current or past Managers hands down would be a better choice to make selections than writers.I would change it tomorrow if I could change it!***Off the record you want ballplayers making choices for writer awards, come on get serious!

The writers job is to report, do research and write good stories or articles period!

Posted 01/07  at  01:43 PM
Greg Simons said...

Stephen,
Morgan was a fantastic player, and he seems very intelligent.  But his repeated bashing of sabermetrics, and specifically Moneyball, which he acknowledged he’s never read, indicates an unwillingness to consider the statistical side of the game much beyond the Triple Crown and wins.

I think players and managers could do a good job of selecting Hall of Famers, but comments from the players I mentioned and the Frankie Frisch fiascos of yesteryear make me wonder if such a board would be far too lenient or far too strict.

Posted 01/07  at  09:04 PM
Derek Ambrosino said...

Stephen,

Your suggestion is possibly one of the few that I feel confident would produce a worse outcome than today’s system.

A shrewd evaluation of “talent” is a gross oversimplification of is needed to qualify somebody as a capable HOF voter. You also need to be knowledgeable about the history of game in order to understand the historical “bar” for inclusion and put production levels of various eras into context. You also need voters who are willing to consider the best information and metrics available to quantify on-field productivity - this is a science that is constantly evolving, so drawing from a group that boasts many proud Luddites is probably not a good idea. ...Add to that problem the myriad potential conflict of interests and you have a veritable boondoggle.

Posted 01/09  at  08:56 PM
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