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Friday, February 10, 2012

None nastier than Kimbrel

Posted by Harry Pavlidis
Craig Kimbrel throws a nasty breaking ball. He grips it like a spike slider (maybe) and the ball moves like a curveball (sort of). It's a relatively short curveball, but one moving upwards of 87 mph when it leaves Kimbrel's hand. The combination of speed and drop are unparalleled in the major leagues today.

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Checkout the discussion and a picture of the grip in the forum at Brooks Baseball. The label is not as important as the key characteristics—speed and drop—when looking for comparisons to Kimbrel's offering. The first comparison is flame-thrower Henry Rodriguez.

Rodriguez threw a very similar breaking ball to Kimbrel's in 2011, averaging roughly the same drop (40 inches) but not as fast (84 mph).

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Close, but no cigar. As a matter of fact, if you look for any pitch that averages more than 82 mph and dropped more than 38 inches on the way to home plate, you'd fine a decent list but no one in Kimbrel's exact neighborhood. If you go back past 2011, some sliders show-up (Brett Anderson, Billy Wagner), but otherwise this is a list of curveballs and their throwers. And, as it turns out, Mitch Talbot appears to be our co-runner up, if you sort by speed.

Fast (82+ mph) and dropping (38+ in.), average values 2011


















































Pitcherdrop (in.)mphsweep (in.)#
Craig Kimbrel40878404
Mitch Talbot40849141
Henry Rodriguez40848249
Luis Valdez3983332
A.J. Burnett428371079
Bobby Jenks5083713
Kevin Jepsen4383728
Mark Melancon43834297
Felix Hernandez48829518
Juan Gutierrez44828112
Brad Lincoln438213135
Joe Nathan40826153
Scott Linebrink44823136
Grant Balfour4082657
Kyle Drabek41825124
David Robertson498210249
Brandon Morrow42825157
Jonathan Sanchez42825329
Nick Masset48829252
John Axford46824289
Heath Bell42826343
Fernando Salas41823225
Evan Meek40821094



Note: all pitch classifications are our own and do not come from Gameday or BIS feeds


Harry Pavlidis admits he has a baseball problem. He is the founder of Pitch Info LLC, His pitch classifications power the player cards at Brooksbaseball.net. Feedback, questions and comments are appreciated - Email harrypav@gmail.com and Twitter @harrypav


Comments

Ben Pritchett said...

Truly great, Harry… Just curious, who has the largest drop on any particular pitch?

Posted 02/10  at  07:02 PM
Harry Pavlidis said...

Here’s a partial list, min. 500 curves 2010-1

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/dispatch_article/the-anticipated-return-of-adam-wainwrights-curveball/

The biggest drop is probably Wakefield’s curveball, since it goes so darn slow, but it doesn’t make the list.

Posted 02/11  at  11:43 AM
scott said...

I don’t know how to check it out but would Aroldis Chapman come close? I’ve seen some nasty pitches from him.

Posted 02/11  at  10:52 PM
Lee [ Cowboy said...

I switched channels on the tv many times last year just to watch Kimbrel pich the 9th inning. He is electric!

Posted 02/12  at  02:15 PM
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