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Wednesday, October 07, 2009
And That Happened: AL Central Playoff EditionTwins 6, Tigers 5: You didn't know it you didn't think it could be done in the final end they won the war. After losing every battle.
Greatest game in Metrodome history? With all apologies to Chris I'm inclined to say no, simply because I don't equate high drama with greatness. There were all manner of screwups in this game. They kept things close, but that doesn't define greatness as far as I'm concerned. On the one hand you can say "Wow! What an incredible game!" On the other hand you can say "Man, a lot of sloppy play, a lot of missed opportunities, and hoo-boy a bad call by the ump made a big difference." Though the more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to believe that those things aren't mutually exclusive. Whatever: what an incredible, sloppy game!
From the end of this thing the Twins had 21 hours until the first pitch in the Bronx. After burning though eight pitchers and a hundred different emotions. Against a team who ran the table against them this year. It's hard not to root for Minnesota going forward, but I wouldn't put a ton of money on them.
Posted by Craig Calcaterra at 12:02am
I disagree on the Casilla play. I think Laird got him on the shoulder right before his hand touched - it was close, could have gone either way. The HBP was clearly wrong, but I’m fine with it. I hate than a hit jersey counts as a hit batter.
Posted 10/07 at 12:00 PM
Tim F. said...
The Tiger’s deserved to take the lead in that game because Inge got hit in his baggy shirt? I guess technically yes, but to point to this as to why the Tigers are going home is weak, IMO. I doubt the spirit of the rules took into account the trend of baggy clothing. Especially when earlier in the game, Huff’s pant leg got brushed by a pitch which lead to a run.
Like I said, technically yes, but if that’s the huge gripe that cost the Tigers a win, I’m finding it hard to have any sympathy. Although I’m sure I’d be on the other side if I wasn’t a Twins fan.
Posted 10/07 at 12:12 PM
Casilla was out. End of story. Yes, Inge DID get HBP, but I agree with Aarcraft that I don’t like the jersey counting. The ball has to actually hit you. Anything close and you stay in the box.
I thought the strike zone, while bad, was fairly consistent for the first 8 innings or so.
I said this to a million other Tiger fans last night and I’ll say it again here, Leyland was sticking with his best bullpen arm. I’m convinced that if the Tigers had won this game that nobody would say anything about Rodney pitching 3+ innings.
Posted 10/07 at 12:41 PM
Agreed Tim F. I wouldn’t say it was a bad call. Denkinger’s was a bad call. I think this was just a missed call, which may not seem any different to some of you. But how many of you *knew* the ball hit Inge watching live? I’m not even sure it was definitive in the first slo-mo replay. Looked like the ball grazed his jersey, but that’s really hard to detect a 94 mph pitch grazing a jersey in real-time.
If I’m a Tigers fan, I’m not looking at this as the reason the team lost. I’m looking squarely at Gerald Laird’s 10 (TEN!) runners left on base.
Posted 10/07 at 01:26 PM
“Tim F. said…
Tim - I’m pretty sure that the uniforms were a lot baggier when this rule was created in 1887 - please check some archived photos for evidence. It’s a rule…weak or not. Just like Granderson was not doubled off 1st base (he was safe), which would have brought Cabrera up with two on and two out. Just like the pitch that Polanco struck out on was not a strike - pitchtrax showed it a foot inside - with runners on the corners just before Magglio lined into the faux-double play. Twins were jobbed more often with the meandering strike zone by the umpire, but I’m not convinced at all that Casilla was safe…I thought he was out via the replays, but I did have my Tigers glasses on. All told, it was the craziest game I’ve ever seen, and it was a devastating loss. Kudos to the Twins, but it’s awful whenever an umpire plays that big a role in the game.
Posted 10/07 at 01:44 PM
CC, your spelling on the strike zone comment was “atrotious”
Posted 10/07 at 02:27 PM
Hojo said: “Casilla was out. End of story.”
Way to argue your point Hojo. Casilla was out because the ball beat him? Or because the ump called him out, so he must have been out? Or because he should have tagged up better so he deserved to be called out?
None of those are a reason to be out, of course. Only question is whether Casilla got his hand in before Laird tagged him. He clearly did. The Inge play wouldn’t matter if the ump had gotten the Casilla call right.
Posted 10/07 at 02:40 PM
The game was a great game, yes it was sloppy but overall a very entertaining game. I am a Detroit Tigers fan but they didnt have enough talent to win the series, they just lost to a better team period. The tigers need to go train at EFT Sports Performance, to become stronger, faster, more powerful, more explosiveness and an overall better team http://www.eftsportsperformance.com They need to start all over and go back to basics. Thats the true essence of great teams
Posted 10/07 at 03:13 PM
I watched the same replays, and it was not so clear to me. I saw Laird tag him, on the shoulder, just before his hand slid in. Now, I could be wrong, but the play was not as clear as you are making it sound.
Posted 10/07 at 03:24 PM
Jason B said...
I think the umpires from the “Bases Loaded” game on the old NES were presiding (YUK, BUM, BOO, and DUM).
Posted 10/08 at 11:50 AM