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Wednesday, June 03, 2009
Braves Release Glavine?!That's what Rosenthal is saying:
Tom Glavine is done in Atlanta.
As I wrote earlier today, I thought the Braves were obligated -- out of both a sense of history and based on Glavine's commitment to rehab and apparent, though qualified success -- to at least give him a chance to pitch.
Are the Braves in so much need of $1 million that they couldn't stand to at least give him a try? If the Braves are so unwilling to pay off a roster incentive to even a legend like Glavine, why on Earth would anyone else dare sign a deal with them that contains a roster incentive? Above all else: at any point in the last 20 years did it seem possible that Tom Glavine's career in a Braves uniform would end via a club release?
I'll await more information before passing final judgment, but if, as Rosenthal's article claims, Tom Glavine was really throwing 86 last night and not walking a bunch of guys, he was basically where he has been for the past 5-6 years. That doesn't strike me as a performance-based release. That strikes me as a money move, and with this particular player on this particular team, with this particularly small amount of money at play, that's shameful.
(thanks to Chris for the heads up)
Posted by Craig Calcaterra at 6:19pm
I get what you’re saying, but it’s a good thing they finally decided to draw a line in the sand on the basing personnel decisions on the whims of the casual fan.
You might argue that this was the wrong place to draw the line (how about starting with Francoeur instead?), but bringing back Glavine in the first place was begging to be put in this position.
Posted 06/03 at 06:33 PM
In the end, I’m glad I won’t have to see Glavine prolong Hanson’s stay in Gwinnett.
But good golly, what a poor way to handle the situation. Wren must have really, really been hoping Glavine was going to hurt himself or get shelled in his last couple appearances. There never should have been a contract in the first place, but this is a situation that should have been anticipated and handled months ago—instead of a release on the same day Glavine is quoted as saying he’s ready.
Posted 06/03 at 06:42 PM
kyle s said...
the braves did this in the most dickish way imaginable, but i’m not going to shed any tears for tom. he’ll catch on somewhere and have a chance to prove himself.
Posted 06/03 at 07:03 PM
Is Glavine a Boras client?
Posted 06/03 at 07:07 PM
Could there be a union greivance?
Posted 06/03 at 07:15 PM
For shame! Being a Braves fan, this was a bitter pill to swallow. All those “It’s a business” totological chimers can maintain their shallow, materialistic perspective all they want, but this was a BAD move. We all want to see Hanson, but Tommy shouldn’t have been completely shafted like this. One million dollars? Are ya’ serious?
Yeah, yeah, emotional spouting. That’s all I got right now…
Posted 06/03 at 07:15 PM
Jeff Berardi said...
Oh, spare me. They made the right baseball decision and the right business decision. What would you rather do, win games or indulge in pointless sentimentality? Bring on Hanson.
Posted 06/03 at 07:24 PM
Forget Glavine, the Braves just got Nate McLouth!
Posted 06/03 at 07:25 PM
if thats true, that the move is, in my estimation, the coolest thing the braves organization has ever done. kudos to you, braves.
Posted 06/03 at 07:30 PM
That seems a shame, if true. The class move would be to put him on the roster for a day, have a big wing-ding at Turner Field and then let him retire.
Posted 06/03 at 07:31 PM
Why pay $1m to see if Glavine is any good (he probably isn’t) when you can pay the pro-rated portion of Hanson’s salary (approx $3m) and you know he is?
Posted 06/03 at 07:35 PM
Whoops, that was supposed to read $300k for Hanson’s salary.
Posted 06/03 at 07:36 PM
It seems here that Wren put himself into a lose-lose situation all in terms of PR. For sentimental reasons, it would have been nice to see Glavs get on the bump one more time. But for all practical intents and purposes, if Glavine is the best that they can do to fill a spot in the rotation, they have bigger issues than fan backlash. Spots 1 - 4 are spoken for, Hanson is waiting in the wings, Medlen is showing promise and Campillo is still hanging around. Realistically, there isn’t much room for a 43 yo who hasn’t been what he once was in many years. Tip the hat to Glavs for his career and let’s wait 5 years to see him in Cooperstown. If he is willing, have him come back later in the year for a Tom Glavine day to get his last hurrah in front of the fans on Peach St.
Posted 06/03 at 07:52 PM
Aaron Moreno said...
The mistake wasn’t in cutting him, it was in signing him in the first place.
Posted 06/03 at 07:55 PM
Craig Calcaterra said...
Bingo, Aaron. It’s no shame to tell a guy that there’s no room for him. He’s a pro. It’s totally bush to sign him, give him a goal to shoot for, have him work for it, and then take it away like the way they are.
There’s no pitcher there now who wasn’t in the picture in the spring. Tell him thanks for his service and let him go his merry way then. To do so now, in this way is totally unprofessional.
Posted 06/03 at 08:24 PM
The four-letter is saying they just traded for McLouth. Thoughts?
Posted 06/03 at 08:31 PM
Craig Calcaterra said...
Not sure I have any yet.
Posted 06/03 at 09:34 PM
While I don’t think it was a great signing this spring, I disagree that the situation was the same then and now. Depth in the rotation is never a bad thing, and the Braves could realistically look at their rotation in the winter and see question marks - how would Kawakami fair - would he be a Kuroda or an Igawa? Would there be significant injuries to any of the starters? How would young starters in the minors like Medlen, Campillo, and Hanson look? Would they possibly need some of those young arms to trade for an outfield bat? At the start of the season, there was a reasonable argument to be made that Tom Glavine, with an incentive laden contract coming off of surgery, would be a good insurance policy. Turns out, their pitching has, for the most part, worked out well, so they don’t need him.
Posted 06/03 at 09:58 PM
Yeah. Bring up Hanson, sign McLouth, and maybe the fans will forget about Glavine and the integral part he played in our ‘dynasty’.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it’s a business, blah, blah, blah. Still stings a little though.
I’ll back Aaron’s comment and Craig’s follow-up on this one. I was hoping that Craig’s scenario with Tommy’s last day on the roster would come true. Alas. Yay business.
Maybe Tommy will conjur up a Skip classic - “So long everybody…”
Posted 06/03 at 10:01 PM
I’m actually going to say that it wasn’t even a dick move. You’re right Craig, everyone that was there in spring then is still here now. But pitching depth has destroyed the Braves the past couple seasons. Glavine signed the contract knowing the risks. And when the Braves actually needed a 5th starter in the beginning of the year, he wasn’t healthy.
Thankfully, the Braves have had a look of good luck pitching wise this year, and the injury bug hasn’t hit them. They are very much in contention. When 1 or 2 games could make the difference, why waste 1 million on Glavine? That 1 million could very well cost them a playoff apperance.
Posted 06/03 at 10:05 PM