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Wednesday, May 06, 2009Doug Glanville questions the pitch tipping allegationsMy daily spewing about the Roberts-A-Rod book is up over at NBC.Posted by Craig Calcaterra at 10:41am Comments
Craig Calcaterra said...
Hmm, thanks Michael. I did not know that. Is there some source out there I can link to with that for an update, or is it just general info? Posted 05/06 at 11:19 AM
MJ said...
There’s an exerpt up on si.com that details the pitch tipping some highlights:
Like others have mentioned, this doesn’t seem to be really concrete evidence. It almost sounds like Arod was doing this for the benefit of others but never experienced any help in return. Seems to me the only people who could be aware of these mechanics are those who had a direct line of sight with Arod (2nd, CF and catcher). Michael Young has already come out defending Arod and Glanville says he didn’t see anything. Could the “anonymous” source be Pudge? Does a catcher have time to give signals, watch for the pitchers response, get into position and watch his SS? By the way, this is atrocious writing and makes zero sense
What does all those traits have to do with being a good guy and letting Ripken play SS in his last ASG? Did Ripken feel the “Angler’s Snap of the wrist” when Arod patted him on the back? Maybe she’s saying it’s his impeccable instinct for damage control? But even that doesn’t work since it wasn’t Arod’s fault that Cal was playing 3b, so why is he performing “damage control”? Also, considering all the press conferences we’ve seen the last 6 months or so, I wouldn’t say his instinct for damage control is impeccable… Posted 05/06 at 12:45 PM
Jeff said...
Just a note in another column about inaccuracies in the book: http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/8590096/14893870 Posted 05/06 at 02:17 PM
Lisa Swan said...
Looks like Sports Illustrated had to correct Roberts’ own book when they ran the excerpt about the 2001 All-Star Game. Here is the original passage about Ripken, from page 124 of “A-Rod”: “One of the greatest shortstops in baseball history, he had switched to third base this season to accommodate a changing of the guard in Baltimore.” The corrected passage says, “he had switched to third base before the 1997 season to accommodate a changing of the guard in Baltimore.” There is no note on SI.com indicating the change. It’s an odd error, given that A-Rod had previously started in the All-Star game at short with Ripken at third two earlier times. Posted 05/06 at 02:19 PM
Starkweather said...
@MJ: To make it just a little worse, doesn’t the Ripken anecdote actually, for once, show A-Rod living up to his PR? For a guy who came up saying that he emulated Ripken and that’s why he even played the position (SS) this can (and has been) construed as borderline genuine. And I’m pretty sure it was the swing he got at the museum of swings that really helped him the most on this one but I could see a reading of the situation that prizes the angler’s snap a little more. Posted 05/06 at 02:25 PM
Hizouse said...
Orel Hershiser last night was saying that the Rangers knew he was tipping, but it was completely unintentional. Actually, it was intentional to his teammates; apparently it is routine for the SS and 2B to signal other teammates what pitch is coming (I knew this happened sometimes—there’s a good story about Chipper making a diving stop in the NLCS, I think, due to a tip—but Orel made it seem like it was routine). Anyways, A-Rod was apparently pretty obvious about it, and the Rangers knew other teams could pick up on it and tried to get him to be less obvious. Orel said it was completely motivated by A-Rod’s (good) desire to stay involved and help his teammates. And it’s true some of his teammates may have been frustrated by it, but no one thought it was intentional or occurred more often in out-of-reach games with opposing MIFs at the plate. The whole discussion was quite fascinating, actually. Orel was the pitching coach for part of A-Rod’s time there, and he should know what he’s talking about. Every team is trying all the time to steal signals and to confuse the other team about its own signals. A-Rod was just bad at it. Posted 05/06 at 06:41 PM
Matt said...
My biggest question in all of this is: If ARod is supposed to be the worst ever me-first player in the game, how does he have all of these MI friends that he would know and trust well enough to do this tipping with? Also, if it is true where is Roberts’ outrage at his co-conspirators who all were at least as guilty as he? Posted 05/06 at 08:02 PM
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You mentioned in the newsvine piece thatyou thought Glanville was being a bit coy about addressing his NY Times colleagues. There is actually a Times policy prohibiting editorial columnists from directly addressing other columnists, which would explain that coyness.