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Friday, June 12, 2009

Geoff Baker Rigidity Award:  to Geoff Baker

Well, this is awkward:

You know who I thought of first today when I heard of the A-Rod allegations? Bill Bavasi. Yes, that's right. Let me explain.

A lot of the subtext of what's come out in today's report is that all those 104 players caught in the 2003 drug-testing sweep were essentially told they had a year to get themselves off drugs before the punishments became more severe. In other words, by 2004, a lot of those players "juicing up'' likely got off their steroids and played the game clean. (Some may have gotten on to HGH, but we'll assume some were clean).

Then, along comes Bavasi to run the 2004 Mariners. All of a sudden, a 90-plus win playoff contender from 2003 plummets to a 99-loss season. The offense drops off a cliff. Is there a connection between those drops and the stiffer drug testing? We'll probably never know for certain. All I know is, Bavasi inherited a team that -- for whatever reason -- fell off the planet. I've never heard him complain about it. But I have heard other GMs talk about how much tougher it became to sign free agents and plan your team around the past performance of hitters starting with that spring of 2004.


-- Geoff Baker, February 7, 2009.

Tell us, Geoff: would tarring the entire 2003 Mariners roster as 'roiders have passed the "rigid standards" you used to teach at Concordia? Have go gotten around to looking all 25 of those guys from that team in the eye yet? Will you and Rosenthal still be friends after you allow him to rip you to shreds on national TV over this? So many questions . . .

(explanation of the Geoff Baker Rigidity Award can be found here)
(thanks to Ryan Jones and a guy named "good cripple hitter" in this BTF thread for the link).

Posted by Craig Calcaterra at 12:44pm


Comments

Bon said...

This is pretty dangerous stuff, I hear there is nothing so dangerous as a Geoff Baker scorned.

Posted 06/12  at  12:54 PM
Wooden U. Lykteneau said...

Any chance we can rename the award to incorporate the names of Peter Dunn and Albert Wood? Their work on chemically achieving rigidity seems rather appropriate for someone (Baker) who’s so clearly overcompensating…

Posted 06/12  at  12:57 PM
MooseinOhio said...

Will the Geoff Bakerians be as ruthless to deal with as the Ellen Jamesians?

Posted 06/12  at  01:00 PM
Aaron Moreno said...

As an Angels fan, we just assumed Bavasi ran our team into the ground.

Posted 06/12  at  01:10 PM
Richard in Dallas said...

@ Moose - It really doesn’t matter, as long as Jenny doesn’t end up dead, and Michael Milton gets to remain whole….

Posted 06/12  at  01:16 PM
YankeesfanLen said...

Why has the infamous Mike Lupica name not come up yet?  Not only can he tell everyone in baseball what to do, but also politics.  Or does he merely qualify for pomposity award?

Posted 06/12  at  01:17 PM
Wells said...

Come now, confess: you had this all lined up and only introduced the Geoff Baker Rigidty Award to give it to Geoff Baker. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Heckuva job, Calcaterrie.

Posted 06/12  at  01:20 PM
Craig Calcaterra said...

Nope. Click through to that BTF thread I link on the bottom and you can see me learn about it in real time (after post #30).

Posted 06/12  at  01:21 PM
MooseinOhio said...

@Richard - Roberta Muldoon’s “I had mine surgically removed ...” is a great line as well as her “do you like football” to the guy who said she looked familiar.  I can’t remember the lines ver batim but they have always stuck with me - I think it is an under quoted movie/book.

Posted 06/12  at  01:25 PM
Richard in Dallas said...

@ Moose - No kidding!  I read it as a new release when I was in college in the 70’s.  My best friend’s sister worked for Irving’s publisher, and I got a complete set of his stuff, but nothing ever compared to the original Garp… I think I reread it no less than a dozen times!  If only I had paid that much attention to my text books…...

Also-

I never envisioned Robin Williams or John Lithgow in the roles they had, but Glenn Close was PERFECT!

Posted 06/12  at  01:34 PM
Richard in Dallas said...

@ Moose - No kidding!  I read it as a new release when I was in college in the 70’s.  My best friend’s sister worked for Irving’s publisher, and I got a complete set of his stuff, but nothing ever compared to the original Garp… I think I reread it no less than a dozen times!  If only I had paid that much attention to my text books…...

Also-

I never envisioned Robin Williams or John Lithgow in the roles they had, but Glenn Close was PERFECT!

Posted 06/12  at  01:34 PM
Jason @ IIATMS said...

And how come Rick Telander can get a free pass on the “kicking open of the steroid allegations door by the MSM”?

“http://www.suntimes.com/sports/telander/1575381,CST-SPT-rick15.article”

Where was Baker and Rosensquirrel eviscerating Rick?  Oh, he’s part of the MSM, he must have taken Baker’s class and gotten an A.  Riiiight

Posted 06/12  at  01:45 PM
MooseinOhio said...

@Richard - I can see your point about Robin Williams as I thought that William Hurt may have been a more ideal Garp but I really liked Lithgow as Roberta - now Lithgow as the villian in Cliffhanger is hard to accept (damn I just admitted that I’ve seen Cliffhanger).

Posted 06/12  at  01:48 PM
Craig Calcaterra said...

Jason—I read your post and Telander’s piece you linked and ALMOST made it its own award, but after reading it a couple of times I thought it verged close enough to parody to let him off the hook.  I mean, it’s possible he was truly accusing Theriot, but I got the sense that he was just using it as a device to find a way into the Manny stuff.  Good writing? Nah, but not serious enough to where I felt that was truly making an accusation.

Posted 06/12  at  01:52 PM
Richard in Dallas said...

@ Moose - Lithgow was freat in the role, I just pictured Billie Jean King or Marina Navratilova when reading before the movie came out.  William Hurt would have been a good Garp, but he’s a little too wiry.  I was thinking about more of a Steve Garvey look if there’s anybody that looks like him that can act. 

As far as quotable lines, my favorite was “We’ll take it!  What are the chances of THAT happening again?” (after the plane crashes into the house they were looking at).

Posted 06/12  at  02:06 PM
Jason @ IIATMS said...

That’s cool, CC.  I thought it was pretty blatant, even if he was joking or making light.  I didn’t think that was any worse than what Mr. Morris got skewered for.

For those who haven’t read Telander’s comments a few weeks back:

“To wit, Theriot—no disrespect, but if he’s 5-11, I’m 6-12—hit two home runs Wednesday night at Wrigley Field against the Padres, giving him five times more home runs in 33 games this year than he hit all last season.

That rings the steroid/HGH/ whatever-designer-drug-is-in bell, doesn’t it?”

So if I (or Mr. Morris) just prefaced our blog postings on Ibanez by stating “no disrespect”, it would have been OK?  Eh, Rosensquirrel?  Baker?

Posted 06/12  at  02:06 PM
mkd said...

Yeah it had nothing to do with the fact that a team anchored by a bunch of 35+ year olds finally had father time catch up with them.

Thanks Geoff, for mindlessly passing along Bill Bavasi’s excuse for 4 years of unmitigated FAIL while tarring a bunch of guys you never met at the same time. Stay classy.

Hypocritical ass.

Posted 06/12  at  02:08 PM
MooseinOhio said...

@Richard - Nothing quite as comforting as a disaster proofed house.

Posted 06/12  at  02:16 PM
Michael said...

“Baker! That Ibanez steroid article generated thousands of page views and almost 300 comments! Write more on steroids! I don’t care if it’s half-assed, either!”

“Okay, chief!”

“And stop calling me ‘chief’!”

Bavasi’ shortcomings were obvious. To blame them on steroids requires extreme ignorance of the actual facts - or the need to generate controversy.

Far from rigid, Baker is proving to be quite flexible when it comes to generating fake controversy.

Posted 06/12  at  04:58 PM
Ted Spradlin said...

@MKD - you nailed it.  That team went from excellent to geriatric overnight.  They hit their wall and were never going to replicate their magical run.

In hindsight, they hung on too long.  They needed a midseason out of contention veteran dumping, sending 1 veteran away to a contender for 2-3 good prospects.  As history showed, the M’s kept making silly and overpriced signings (Sexson, Beltre, Washburn, Bautista, Silva, Johjima, etc).  Even with steroids, these signings would have been a disaster (factoring in likely ACL, MCL, & Oblique injuries along with the post-big-contract malaise which happened to nearly every one of these guys).

Juice or no juice, hanging onto the popular core too long for sentimental value then throwing star money at re-treads was the culprit to the M’s demise.  Steroids would have only resulted in 620 at bats for Willy Bloomquist at 1B, and still 90+ losses.

Posted 06/13  at  01:16 AM
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