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Most Recent PostsThursday, June 04, 2009Jayson Stark’s hypothetical outrageReader Jason D. has a request:Please write about how damn stupid Stark's ESPN.com piece on draft bonuses is. I'm bored at work. Gladly! Stark's piece is about Stephen Strasburg and draft bonuses. Take it away Jayson: Fifty million bucks. What kills me about this article are not the prescriptions it offers -- trading draft pics, hard bonus caps, etc. are all worth discussing -- it's that it launches into all of this based on a demand made by an agent that everyone already understands to have a somewhat delusional view of the world. I would not at all be surprised to see Scott Boras demand that his next client be given access to "three score and nine comely lasses" and "fiddlers three" as a condition of signing. Does that mean we need to ban chattels from being given as bonuses? There probably do need to be made some changes to the draft, but let's not let Scott Boras dictate what they are. Hell, let Boras ask for the moon. If someone gives it to him they've got more problems than he does. Not that Stark is the only one off point here: "You should get paid for what you do, for what you've done," said Howard's teammate Jayson Werth, a onetime No. 1 pick himself, by the Orioles in 1997. "That's what free agency's for -- to get paid for what you could do, for what you might possibly do. It's not what the draft is for." That sound you hear is Werth being dragged to a union-run reeducation camp somewhere. Posted by Craig Calcaterra at 3:03pm Comments
Brad said...
“That’s what free agency’s for—to get paid for what you could do, for what you might possibly do. It’s not what the draft is for.” Actually, I think that describes exactly what the draft rewards you for. Actually, I think that describes exactly what every baseball contract rewards you for. Posted 06/04 at 07:51 PM
Travis M. Nelson said...
Glad someone’s backing me up on the language of draft picks. There’s no confusin on my part, just a disagreement on how terms are defined. Greg, no disagreement from me. I was speaking of the great, uwashed masses, who generally take a long time to work their way through the ranks. The reserve clause is in place to help the lower budget teams from losing their investment right away, and even moreso, to make sure they can getsome of the best years of the players’ careers at a price they can afford. Even if Strasburg gets his $50M, he could be a bargain if he pitches as wel as they think he will while under contract. Posted 06/04 at 08:19 PM
Kevin S. said...
Look, I’m not saying what a number one pick should refer to, I’m saying what it does. Don’t get on my case because I relay what the convention is.
Posted 06/04 at 09:13 PM
Richard Dansky said...
What kills me is all of the ESPN.com guys - Stark, Gammons, etc. - picking up the $50M number and running with it. They’re doing Boras’ work for him. Posted 06/05 at 02:34 AM
MJ said...
@ Richard
Exactly! One person mentioned he might be looking for the $50M number, but nothing official has ever been announced. And now Boras can just sit back and watch as everyone debates over what this kid should or shouldn’t get. Keith Law had two great comments in his chat yesterday regarding this very topic (in general, not just about Strasburg)
Posted 06/05 at 08:14 AM
tadthebad said...
Petr, What would you be an advocate for, if not capitalism? Posted 06/05 at 08:23 AM
Richard Dansky said...
@MJ I’d even go a bit further than that. All the discussion - and you notice, every time the “what’s he going to get?” discussion simmers down there’s another one of these ZOMG $50M!!! stories that comes out - seems like a good way to get people used to the number. If you really want to go all gonzo Bourne on this, you could suggest that this is a face-saver for the Nats. If they end up paying $35M, they can now claim, with a straight face, they got a bargain. Posted 06/05 at 10:12 AM
scatterbrian said...
On a team level, a first round pick can be referred to as a #1. League-wide, it is incorrect. There is a number one pick, and then there are first round picks. Posted 06/05 at 12:32 PM
Brad said...
I have heard on many occasions players drafted in the 1st round referred to as #1s. The difference lying in the lack of the “overall” added to that. While it makes sense to some degree it seems lazy and confusing - and that’s the reason why I remember hearing it because so many times I can remember thinking, “There it is again. Why are they referring to Jon Ogden and Ray Lewis as number 1s when they were drafted #4 and #26 overall?” Posted 06/05 at 06:56 PM
Brad said...
As far as the reason why caps and slotting isn’t referred to as commie bulls—-, I’d say it’s also likely that sports may suffer from certain teams annually dominating the league. This is obviously open to debate but without some attempts to level the financial playing field many teams will be annual doormats. I’m not implying that wins perfectly correlate to payroll, but it obviously is positively correlated to a large extent. As teams learn how to further exploit their market and squeeze more $$ out of it the greater the earnings disparity between large and small market teams. This CAN be detrimental to the league and thus even the large market teams. Absolute parity isn’t good for a league. Leagues want greater success to be achieved by the larger market teams, but everyone needs hope and a chance to taste true success. It’s like a business balancing costs of capital between equity and debt. There is a balance that will produce the lowest cost. In a sports league there is a balance of success between teams (large and small market) that would generate the most revenues. Posted 06/05 at 07:08 PM
Evan said...
It is very common to refer to someone drafted in the 1st round as a number one pick even if they were not number one overall. Posted 06/08 at 03:16 PM
jpark said...
Doesn’t the Ryan Howard example somewhat hurt Stark’s case here? Part of the reason a talent like Strasburg can demand such a high bonus is that due to baseball’s labor restrictions, even if Strasburg lives up to the hype, he will be systematically paid BELOW market rates. Howard has been massively underpaid over his career. If Strasburg is as good as advertised, he will too for a while. Why the outrage? Posted 06/08 at 05:13 PM
Kyle said...
wow, you guys are a bunch of idiots. all players drafted in the first round are number one picks, the very first player being the number one overall pick. the NHL and NBA have had their drafts slotted for years and it has worked out fine. Lebron James was seen as the next Michael Jordan, but he was still slotted to earn roughly $3mill/year over 3 years and there wasn’t one single complaint. Why? Because he hadn’t proved himself in the NBA yet. Once he finished his rookie contract and had proved himself, he got a nice raise, $20mill/year for 3 years. The NFL needs to get on board with the draft slotting as well. Signability should never have to be a factor when teams are deciding who to draft. How can the Nationals say no to whatever Strasburg demands? There is a reason they are picking first overall, THEY SUCK! THEY NEED ALL THE HELP THEY CAN GET! What would they tell their fans? “We suck, we know it, that’s why we had the number one overall pick, but we either didn’t pick the best player available because we couldn’t afford him, or we did pick him but can’t sign him because we can’t afford him.” I really hope the Nationals have the balls to pick Strasburg, then offer him a signing bonus that’s slightly higher than ones from last year (so ~$6.75-7mill) and then tell him to either take it or he can sit out. Posted 06/08 at 09:43 PM
h said...
The signing bonus is for what he has done (in college) as a predictor of future performance (which is a crapshoot, as we know). So the question is competitive balance. In theory slotting would help clubs like the Nationals get major talent at below market price (since they can’t pay market prices set by the yankees). However, it’s tough to tell Strasburg to take 40 mill less to further competitive balance. I’d scream bloody murder if it was me. Posted 06/09 at 01:03 PM
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Not to get poltiical, but what bothers me is how everyone is so up in arms about sports salaries when its simple supply and demand. Don’t get me wrong, I’m far from being an advocate of capitalism, but if that’s the economic system you prefer then you are getting exactly what you asked for.