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Baseball. Blogging. Whenever.Wednesday, July 22, 2009Little Red FlagsAnother story I'm probably late on -- stupid day job -- concerned Ron Gardenhire's comments in the wake of Monday night's botched call at the plate:Ron Gardenhire has what he considers the perfect plan for reviewing close calls in baseball: red flags that managers throw like in the NFL . . . I've cited this rule so often that it probably needs some official name -- maybe "The Carlin Rule" -- but in the meantime: if you have an idea to improve baseball, and your reasoning in support of it requires you to cite football's adoption of said idea, it is ipso facto a bad idea. UPDATE: Oops, I hadn't realized until after I posted this that Neyer had already hit in it earlier today, complete with Carlin reference. He's a smart guy, that Neyer. Gonna have a future in this business if he plays his cards right. Posted by Craig Calcaterra at 5:10pm Comments
Will said...
I disagree Greg. As both Craig and Rob point out, Carlin nailed the fact that football and baseball are diametrically opposed in nearly every single way. It’s not that the NFL, or football in general, is bad, it’s that the games are so different that justifying a change in one game based on its success in the other is ludicrous. In other words, the change to baseball’s rules needs to be justified in terms of baseball, not in terms of the NFL, NBA, NHL or whatever other sport. Posted 07/23 at 11:30 AM
Greg Simons said...
I’m not arguing that MLB should adopt ideas from the NFL simply because they work in the NFL. I’m arguing that we shouldn’t reject ideas simply because they work in the NFL. Re-reading Craig’s post, I do think I took it a bit wrong, but I still stand by my comments; don’t say “no” just because the NFL says “yes.” (Leave that to the Dems and GOP.) And I think (hope?) there’s a bit of snark and hyperbole in all these comments. I do agree “the change to baseball’s rules needs to be justified in terms of baseball,” and I love the Carlin routine. Posted 07/23 at 11:45 AM
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Automatically rejecting an idea just because the NFL is doing it is bad reasoning. Not sure if it’s ipso facto or not - I’m not that familiar with Latin - but it’s still bad reasoning, even if Neyer says it.