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Monday, November 23, 2009
Mauer PowerPop quiz, hot shot: There's a catcher who wins the Gold Glove, the batting title and leads the league in on base and slugging percentage. What do you call him?
That is, unless you're the (presumably) Detroit-area voter who put Miguel Cabrera in front of Mauer in first place, costing him the unanimous MVP.
Same dude who voted Verlander over Greinke for the Cy Young award? If so, is it time to investigate whether this city-by-city system is the best way to go?
UPDATE: Ken Davidoff Tweets that it was Keizo Konishi of Kyodo News, based in Seattle, who voted Miguel Cabrera first. I can think of no worldly justification for voting Cabrera ahead of either Mauer or Jeter for that matter, so I eagerly await Mr. Konishi's explanation.
Posted by Craig Calcaterra at 2:24pm
Bill B. said...
The Cabrera voter was from Seattle, believe it or not.
“Keizo Konishi of Kyodo News, based in Seattle, voted Miguel Cabrera first.”
Posted 11/23 at 03:35 PM
Here too, for those who can’t look at twitter:
Posted 11/23 at 03:39 PM
“He was an inspirational horse. Nobody was tougher with the season on the line.”
Oh wait, that was Justin Verlander. Cabrera is the guy who stayed out all night, got drunk with members of the opposing team, had an altercation with his wife, and tanked the last weekend of the season, thereby helping to ensure that the Tigers missed the playoffs.
Posted 11/23 at 03:46 PM
Although I dont diagree with ecp, Miggy did hit a pretty huge HR in the play-in game while being deraded with alcohol related chants from a metrodome crowd. That homerun shut them up pretty quick, trust me, I was there.
Posted 11/23 at 03:56 PM
From fangraphs Dave Cameron
Posted 11/23 at 04:12 PM
Hey, they improved the look of the BBWAA site. Now it only looks 10 years old instead of 15.
Posted 11/23 at 04:19 PM
@dbhammel - More to the point, though, is that if Cabrera had shown up for the final series against the White Sox, there’s a good chance no play-in game would have been necessary.
Posted 11/23 at 04:43 PM
Wooden U. Lykteneau said...
Well, at least now we know who Migeuel Cabrera hits the sake bars with in Seattle.
Posted 11/23 at 04:43 PM
Jason @ IIATMS said...
According to many reports, because of that 1st place vote, Miggy ranked 4th in the MVP voting, thereby earning him $200K. Someone better watch the bank wires.
Not for nothing, but what does “deraded” mean?
Posted 11/23 at 04:48 PM
Posted 11/23 at 05:54 PM
The right guy won. I’ll never understand the quest for unanimity in these things. What principle is being upheld, and whose honor defended?
Bill Simmons bugs me sometimes, but I agree with him about one thing—baseball is becoming a sport about which you’re not allowed to have opinions anymore.
Posted 11/23 at 06:03 PM
Craig Calcaterra said...
You can have opinions, sansho. But I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask that those opinions be (a) informed; and (b) defended if they are considerably detached from the mainstream.
Carpenter v. Lincecum v. Wainwright: it’s fairly close. Go ahead and have your opinions, and if you’re Keith Law or Will Carroll or Ron Rollins—all people whose opinions I generally respsect—we can argue all day long without anyone truly able to say that they’re right with a captial R.
But Cabrera over Mauer? Sorry, show your work or I can’t take you seriously.
Posted 11/23 at 06:18 PM
A quick glance at the Kyodo News Sports sections shows like 10 articles on International volleyball and only one story even remotely related to the MLB. They don’t even have Mauer’s MVP as a story. Why does this guy have a vote?
Posted 11/23 at 06:52 PM
What I don’t understand is how did Albert Pujols not even recieve any votes?
C’mon, he played in American League parks during interleague play, and we all know he’s the best player in the game. And there is no rule prohibiting writers for voting for a National League player for the American League MVP.
This is just another example of these young, upstart junior league writers not showing the proper respect for their established senior league counterparts. And the anti-Cardinal bias? Don’t get me started.
If this isn’t a conspiracy, then what is? Next thing you know, you’ll be telling me Lee Harvey actually shot JFK, Neil Armstrong really walked on the moon, and the govermentment had nothing to do with 9/11?
Posted 11/23 at 08:16 PM
I don’t think Cabrera was necessarily the “most valuable”, but I can understand why someone might select him.
Just take one look at the Twins leaderboards offensively in HRs, RBIs, batting average, and OPS and you’ll see three different players. Take a look at the Tigers and you’ll see one player.
The Twins had five players with an .800 or higher OPS with at least 500 at bats. Tigers had one, two if you do 500 plate appearances.
Twins had two players with 100 RBIs, neither of which were Mauer, and four players with 90 RBIs. Tigers had one, Cabrera.
Twins weren’t exactly the Yankees offensively, but the Tigers were basically Cabrera. They had three players with 500+ PA’s with an OPS over .730. The Twins, had five.
Posted 11/23 at 08:54 PM
Probably the vote was political. Mauer was an absolute certainty for the MVP, so why not push you’re own personal favorite by making him 1st in your ballot. It would have been fun if more writers argued like that, and made Mauer lose the MVP.
Also, how can Rivera get more votes then Greinke?
Posted 11/23 at 10:53 PM
Steve C said...
I noticed Rivera being placed higher on the ballot than Grineke, really strange. I think there are too many ballot spots for the MVP and too few for the Cy Young.
Most teams employ 10-11 pitchers on their 25 man roster. So for a population of players that is 2/5ths of the league has a voting system that only has 3 lines to write names into. This makes no sense, it should at least be 2/5ths the size of the MVP ballot (4).
Posted 11/23 at 11:33 PM
Explain to me how that makes any difference in how valuable the players are. Thanks in advance.
Posted 11/24 at 02:07 AM
Also, sorry for spelling your name wrong.
Posted 11/24 at 03:11 AM
Jonathan Fellows said...
“Why does this guy [from Kyodo News] have a vote?”
Posted 11/24 at 10:25 AM