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Thursday, June 04, 2009More on GlavineAfter a night's sleep -- and upon learning that Tommy Hanson has been called up and will pitch on Saturday -- I have moderated my views about the whole Glavine affair. Upshot: While I concede that from a purely baseball perspective the Braves are better off with Tommy Hanson than Tom Glavine on the mound, I'm still disappointed in the way things were handled. I will allow, however, for the possibility that the Braves were placed in an untenable position by Glavine in all of this, and whether that actually occurred depends on whether the Braves actually communicated their intention to release him before or after Glavine made his "I'm ready" announcement Tuesday night. If they did -- and if they truly believed that Glavine couldn't get anyone out in the bigs -- and Glavine was playing politics, then well, bad on Glavine. If they did not -- if they played their cards close to the vest, encouraging him along in rehab, allowing him to declare himself ready, and then and only then told him he had the choice of retiring or to be released -- then bad on the Braves.More thoughts on it here. UPDATE: One other deep thought. The Red Sox face a similar situation with John Smoltz that the Braves did with Glavine (i.e. a rehabbing legend with no apparent place to put him). There are differences here -- Smoltz likely has more in the tank than Glavine, and the Sox don't have the connection to him that the Braves do to Glavine -- but it will nonetheless be interesting to see how they handle him when he's ready to go (or not). Posted by Craig Calcaterra at 8:52am Comments
Nick Whitman said...
Moose- Shortstop on the Red Sox is a debacle. Julio Lugo still gets starts. Nick Green, another terrible player, gets the rest of the starts. Jed Lowrie will hopefully be an improvement over those two stiffs, but I hardly think you can say the Red Sox “absorbed” Lugo’s terrible contract. If you had used Edgar Renteria as an example, that would have been more appropriate. I absolutely don’t buy that the Yankees are successful because they have some sort of magical team culture. The “Yankee mystique” argument. It’s preposterous. The Yankees win a lot of games because they field a talented team, almost every year. They aren’t improved this year because of the culture or whatever, they’re improved because the starting pitching is better. Teams that can identify and draft or sign talented players are successful because they field talented teams, not because of some nebulous “mentality.” Posted 06/04 at 03:10 PM
Greg Simons said...
“VILE SABOTAGE and EGREGIOUS TREASON” As we learned earlier this week, arguments are proven by using all caps. Posted 06/04 at 03:32 PM
MooseinOhio said...
Nick - Point taken on the Renteria over Lugo though I think I am just projecting as Lowrie is the SS of today and the future. Had he not been hurt and had the surgery Lugo would be one the most overpaid utility players in the league. From what I read he is only a few weeks away from returning and I think they felt Nick Green could only hurt them so much and did not want to give up any talent for a very short term rental player and are saving their chips for other needs. Posted 06/04 at 03:51 PM
Nick Whitman said...
I hope Lowrie pans out. He gets a lot of leeway because of his RBI totals last year, but really he wasn’t that great at the plate, and his minor league stats don’t suggest that he’s got anymore upside than a low-power high-OBP guy. Which is fine, I guess. At least he’s a solid defender. Watching Lugo and Green try to field is an unpleasant experience. Posted 06/04 at 03:58 PM
kendynamo said...
thank you, greg. surely now we can all agree: tom glavine = vile saboteur Posted 06/04 at 04:08 PM
Jason B said...
I’m absolutely 108.17% *certain* that my beloved Blue Jays would also have a magical team culture and the best chemistry in all the land (well, Canada, anyway…eh?) if they had a $175 million payroll. Good chemistry is a term applied after-the-fact to successful teams, methinks. Otherwise, who were the teams that were thought to be poised to make playoff runs this year based on their wondrous chemistry and not their talent pool and/or resources? Posted 06/04 at 04:57 PM
Jason B said...
I’m absolutely 108.17% *certain* that my beloved Blue Jays would also have a magical team culture and the best chemistry in all the land (well, Canada, anyway…eh?) if they had a $175 million payroll. Good chemistry is a term applied post-hoc to successful teams, methinks. If we can’t use team chemistry for any predictive purposes with any more certainty than any other commonly-used predictors of success, (like on-field talent; managerial and front office acumen; and financial resources) then any discussion thereof is pretty worthless indeed. Not Francoeur-level worthless…but close. Posted 06/04 at 05:10 PM
Jason B said...
I like posting comments twice. I like…posting comments…twice. And my other brother Darrell. Posted 06/04 at 05:11 PM
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tad: not just for his success but also for his VILE SABOTAGE and EGREGIOUS TREASON.