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Baseball. Blogging. Whenever.Friday, September 25, 2009My Morning in Exile"Empire Strikes Back" was on TV the other day. I came in right when Leia planted a wet one on Luke. Two possibilities: (1) either Lucas didn't really have the whole story arc planned out in advance; or (2) Mackenzie Phillips was an uncredited script doctor on that flick . . .And at the risk of opening a prequel can of worms, how on Earth could Leia have said that her mother "died when I was very young," and she remembers "images, feelings. She was very beautiful, kind, but very sad" if she died during childbirth in "Sith"? The technical answer is that in 1983 or whatever they didn't know they were going to do the prequels, but you'd think that since he was getting, like, a billion dollars to make them, Lucas would have figured out how to make Padme's death jibe with the lines from "Jedi." Sorry, but I'm a bit Star Wars preoccupied today. Posted by Craig Calcaterra at 11:37am Comments
lar said...
Do you *really* want to talk about the crappy ending to Sith, which, up until Padme died “of a broken heart”, was actually very cool? Because, really, the “broken heart” thing is probably worse than, and a bigger cop-out than, the stupid midichlorians thing. It was *so* bad, so poorly written. Anyway, I think the typical justification/retconning of that line is that Leia, being strong in the Force, can remember that image/feeling on some sort of cosmic, sub-conscious level. I dunno, it’s something weird like that… Posted 09/25 at 11:52 AM
Aaron Moreno said...
Don’t worry Craig, I’m sure Lucas will alter the originals again to get the canon straightened out. Posted 09/25 at 12:02 PM
John said...
Couldn’t she have been referring to Bail Organa’s wife, whom she presumably thought was her real mother until she found out she was actually a Skywalker? Posted 09/25 at 12:03 PM
Chris H. said...
John’s explanation makes the most sense, but IMO the simplest thing to do is pretend the prequels never happened. No fuss, no muss, and save all your jokes about Egyptian rivers, please. —chris, who doesn’t completely accept the Ewoks, either Posted 09/25 at 12:06 PM
Chris H. said...
Oh, and you know what would’ve been cool? When Hendry announced the Bradley suspension and was asked why, he should’ve just shouted, “He’s part of the rebel alliance and a traitor! Take him away!” Bonus points if he’d done the finger-stab motion too. Posted 09/25 at 12:08 PM
ecp said...
@John - That was always my theory, because the incongruity of the storyline otherwise made no sense. Unless, of course, The Force gives one the ability to sense those sorts of things in the womb. But then again, if that were true, wouldn’t Luke and Leia have known that they were brother and sister all along? But wait! When Luke tells her, she says, “I know. Somehow I’ve always known.” The mind reels with possibilities! Posted 09/25 at 12:12 PM
Chris H. said...
Actually, Star Wars could explain all kinds of baseball puzzles. SCENE INT OFFICE OF DAVID GLASS DAYTON MOORE enters the office to confront DAVID GLASS. GLASS This has been a disaster, Dayton. I think MOORE (glowering) David, if you strike me down, I will become FADE OUT Posted 09/25 at 12:14 PM
Shalomi said...
zell has some great new demolition photos of yankee stadium: http://zellspinstripeblog.com/ Posted 09/25 at 12:33 PM
Chris H. said...
“What’s going on?” “Our position is correct, except…no Yankee Stadium.” Posted 09/25 at 12:41 PM
Andy H said...
There’s a real phenomenon where siblings who first meet as adults are sexually attracted to each other: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_sexual_attraction Made famous of course by Wagner in “Die Walkure” Posted 09/25 at 12:42 PM
scatterbrian said...
Oh and there could be more. Lucas evidently wrote the saga in nine parts, and 7-9 exists somewhere. I read the beginning of what was allegedly the script for #7. The scene took place in Cloud City, which Luke and Leia turned into the new Jedi Temple. The Temple is attacked and nearly decimated by a bunch of jet-packed Sith dressed like Vader. Posted 09/25 at 01:26 PM
ES said...
Originally Leia wasn’t meant to be his sister. Episodes 7-9 were going to be the quest to find Luke’s sister and the destruction of the Empire. Lucas never thought he was going to make the prequels so he consolidated all that information into Episode 6 and made Leia Luke’s sister. Also rounded out the story by killing off the Emperor. Posted 09/25 at 02:32 PM
Ben2009 said...
Can I just say, I love these threads. Did Lucas include the kissing scene in Empire to throw the audience off the scent? Leia as Luke’s sister is a big surprise in Jedi, right? Who would have seen that coming after the kiss in Empire? And story-wise, she doesn’t know they’re related so why wouldn’t she kiss him in that moment? Posted 09/25 at 03:15 PM
Craig Calcaterra said...
Actually, Empire is the movie that Lucas had the least to do with, story wise. He wrote the general arc, but the script was by the legendary Leigh Brackett (Big Sleep; Rio Bravo) and Lawrence Kasdan. This, of course, it why it’s by far the best of the six movies IMHO. My guess: they weren’t considering sister/brother stuff at that point. They simply needed to give Leia some ammo in the early movie bickering between her and Solo, so bam, a kiss designed to induce jealousy. Posted 09/25 at 03:21 PM
Craig Calcaterra said...
Wait, they had to have thought of it because they wrote that “there is another” line from Yoda, and later had Luke call out to Leia when he was hanging on the antenna at cloud city. Crap. This is even more troubling than I thought. Posted 09/25 at 03:27 PM
Chris L said...
Craig, they had to be considering the brother/sister stuff then because of Yoda’s last line in Empire: “No, there is another”, meaning Leia. Of course, Ben should have known that too, even as a ghost. Agreed on Empire, though. Best of the bunch. Posted 09/25 at 03:33 PM
scatterbrian said...
Well, Ben should have known that because he was there when Luke and Leia were born. The whole Force sensing stuff is a bit murky though. I mean, Vader could sense when Kenobi made his way around the Death Star. Shouldn’t he have sensed that his two kids were in the house, too? Posted 09/25 at 04:08 PM
ES said...
Not only that scatterbrian, but Vader had Leia tortured. There is no way that Lucas would have his ‘hero’ Anakin tortue his own daughter. The “there is another” line was meant to set up Episodes 7-9. Posted 09/25 at 04:23 PM
HP3 said...
Chris H. is the Most Valuable Poster today. “He’s part of the rebel alliance and a traitor! Take him away!” “Our position is correct, except…no Yankee Stadium.” Way too funny. Star Wars geek posts at a comedy baseball site led by a Shyster. What fun. Posted 09/25 at 04:59 PM
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Actually Craig, the prequels were written (or at least outlined) back in the 70s when Lucas wrote the original trilogy. Makes some of the inconsistencies even more aggravating.