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Wednesday, May 27, 2009
Yay Jason!Jason from IIATMS hits the big time:
Jason Rosenberg was heading home and listening to satellite radio when he heard that Manny Ramirez was fourth among National League outfielders in initial All-Star voting. By the end of the night, a new Web site was born: Vote for Manny.
Remember us little guys when you're rich and famous, Jason.
UPDATE: Jason is going to be interviewed on Westwood One radio tonight too. All hail your omnipresent IIATMS overlord.
Posted by Craig Calcaterra at 4:04pm
This is an issue that doesn’t just stop with Manny. Look at how many Brewers are in the top two spots at their positions. Democracy is a great thing until it gets in the wrong hands. Fortunately, we have you, so champion our cause!
Posted 05/27 at 04:34 PM
Aaron Moreno said...
Are we saying that Milwaukee constitutes the wrong hands?
Posted 05/27 at 04:40 PM
Yes that’s what we are saying.
Posted 05/27 at 05:06 PM
Wow, that’s fantastic. Go Jason!
Posted 05/27 at 05:08 PM
Pete Toms said...
Regrettably Jason’s stunning good looks are not visible over radio. (unless his Facebook photos are fradulent)
A hearty mozel tov to Jason.
Posted 05/27 at 05:52 PM
My Pet Goat said...
There’s nothing wrong with democracy or the hands of the people. What’s wrong is a system that rewards ballot stuffing… and two hot months…
Posted 05/27 at 08:25 PM
Jack Marshall said...
Yay Jason? I don’t get this at all. This fool thinks it will be “funny’ to deface the All-Star Game with Manny Ramirez, who not only won’t deserve it on the basis of his production to that point, but will also embarrass baseball and keep a deserving, non-cheating star off the team.People like Jason simply enjoy causing discomfort and chaos, spreading their cynicism and taking pleasure at robbing others of their own fun and passions. He is the same breed as the creators of computer viruses,the same anti-social instincts as the people who try to screw up on-line polls because it makes them feel powerful. It’s the equivilent of amusing yourself by farting in a crowded elevator. “Yay Jason,” eh? Good to know the kind of conduct you admire.
Posted 05/28 at 12:55 AM
I think the guy’s a jackass.
Just as Jack Marshall said. The PED issue isn’t a big enough black eye for baseball. Let’s have one of the “caught” superstars play in the All-Star game too. “Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.”
The whole situation disgusts me. It’s arbitrary too, Manny refuses to play in the ASG anyway, and has for some time. Way to go Jason.
Posted 05/28 at 03:24 AM
Kevin S. said...
You guys might want to try actually reading Jason’s blog post about this before you condemn him for it. Then again, doing so will make you both realize how much of a tool you each are, so maybe you shouldn’t if you’re faint of heart.
Posted 05/28 at 05:23 AM
Craig Calcaterra said...
Jack and Kill,
Go read Jason’s latest post at IIATMS (link in the blogroll to the lower left on this page if you can’t find it). His reason for doing this is as a protest—albeit an unconventional one—of Bud Selig and baseball’s failure to institute a Shawne Merriman rule that would have prevented Manny from even being eligible for the All-Star Game in the first place, which he believes should be the case. It is his hope that Manny winning the vote would place baseball in an awkward position that would highlight and shame it for its failure to have a rule which I can only assume both of you would be in favor of.
On a more general level, Jason is a friend, and my “Yay Jason” is directed at him getting some national media exposure. He has worked very hard to make what is an excellent blog over the past year, and whether or not you agree with what he’s doing there, I am happy that he is realizing some success. So yes, “Yay Jason.”
Posted 05/28 at 05:29 AM
Jason @ IIATMS said...
Thanks Craig and Kevin and others. I don’t mind the vitriol; I’ve gotten plenty of it. It’s been outweighed by the good words, support and laughs I have heard.
I never, EVER, anticipated the legs this thing would have.
For those of you who took the time to read and got it, thank you. Sincerely. You have no idea how much I appreciate it.
There are always people who will disagree with something and I’m OK with that; it’s just like the voting. Everyone’s got a voice and a right to use it. I’d like the criticisms to be a less personal in nature, but that’s my problem.
It’s not just about the fact that Manny is eligible; it’s also about the stupid ASG rules. Don’t get me riled up again…
So yes, the interview last night went well. I will try to find a way to post the audio for it soon. I was also on a STL radio station this AM and they couldn’t have been nicer and more supportive. Of course, I got called a “douche” by WFAN this morning, so that’s a big feather in my cap.
There’s been a few other interview requests and whatnot. But my 15 minutes are about up.
As Wooden (I think) noted in the comments here yesterday… 14:58…14:59…
Posted 05/28 at 08:43 AM
Certainly I wish everybody rewards for hard work and recognition for good ideas, including this fellow.
However, I do want to quickly nit-pick when he commended Selig for creating the wild-card.
Bud Selig deserves ZERO credit for creating the wild card. All three other major sports had it by the time that MLB instituted it in 1995. Crediting Selig with creating the wild card would be like crediting me for creating plumbing if I install a kitchen sink at my house. I didn’t create a damn thing, I just saw that other people had done something that worked, and I rode on their coattails.
Posted 05/28 at 09:54 AM
Jack Marshall said...
Craig, as you can see from other comments here,“Yay Jason” was widely interpreted as approval, and there was certainly nothing in your post to suggest otherwise. I assumed there was an element of protest in the stunt, just as the clods at “VotefortheWorst” claim to be protesting American Idol with their efforts to louse up what for a lot of Americans is a competition they enjoy, and for the singers is quite literally a life-changing opportunity. So I am supposed to excuse an excercise by people who don’t give a damn about an activity, designed to spoil it for the millions who do, which will also potentially harm or abort the careers of talented performers, because it’s a “protest”? I happen to enjoy the All-Star Game. Lots of other people do too. Players (other than Manny Ramirez) regard it as an important honor; some even get bonuses as a result. None of these people are responsible for what he is supposedly protesting. (Yeah, the stupid tie game embarrassed Bud—-whom I detest—-but mostly it just ticked off millions of fans who invested four hours in a game with no pay-off. I suppose your friend loved it.) Who is Jason Rosenberg to decide that all these people should be disappointed, annoyed or harmed so he can make a statement, flex his on-line muscles, feel important, attract more people to his blog, and get media gigs?
I’m sure your friend is a swell guy, but there is no justifying this kind of self-serving, shot-gun protest, and when somebody says a result that is going to upset millions who are innocent of the conduct being protested would be “funny,” it is per se wrong and proof positive of the jerk gene. Friend or not, I think you should either say so, or at least not validate his conduct by cheering him on.
Posted 05/28 at 10:14 AM
Craig Calcaterra said...
“Who is Jason Rosenberg to decide that all these people should be disappointed, annoyed or harmed so he can make a statement, flex his on-line muscles, feel important, attract more people to his blog, and get media gigs?”
Jack, I’d suggest that that exact statement could be turned around on a person who has made it his business to tell us that we should all be dissappointed, annoyed, and outraged about the morals and ethics of the steroid era. Put differently, he’s one man with an opinon and he has every right to voice it. People can listen to him or not, just as they choose to listen or not to what you or I have had to say about anything else on which we opine.
If you disagree with what he’s doing, fine, say so. But to question his right to say it and to call him a self-serving jerk for doing so crosses a line.
Posted 05/28 at 10:20 AM
Jack Marshall said...
It crosses no line at all. Surely you comprehend the difference between words and conduct? Jason’s welcome to his opinions. He’s not welcome to screw up other people’s enjoyment for his own purposes, and when he does, he should be called on it. Actively promoting and facilitating obnoxious and chaotic conduct goes far beyond stating opinions.
Posted 05/28 at 10:38 AM
Jason @ IIATMS said...
I am no one. Just like you. I had a point of view, an opinion, a thought to share. I used the power of the internet plus a bit of initiative to share those things. Everyone has a right to agree or disagree with those things and I welcome all of it. I’ve been complimented and bashed.
Self-serving? No, it’s just fun. Fun as hell. Suddenly I, an absolute no one, am being asked for interviews on national radio broadcasts, newpapers, the freakin’ Associated Press? Who am I? No one. No one but someone with an idea, a thought, an opinion with an internet connection and a half-ounce of initiative.
So please halt the personal attacks. Criticize the plan, the message all you want. Just cool it on the personal attacks. It defeats all arguments and makes you look the fool, not me.
Again, thanks for the support Craig (and others).
Posted 05/28 at 10:43 AM
What was being championed here wasn’t the actual content or message of the blog, but rather that the writer achieved some celebrity from it. I agree with most of what you wrote (although I can’t really know that the writer is a jerk), but I can’t believe that you would actually be surprised at the celebrity culture and the satirizing of pop culture institutions (like MLB or American Idol). I mean….this is the clearly way things are and probably the way they will be for a long time, and it’s disingenuous to act surprised, in my opinion.
If you want integrity and cultural purity, you’re in the wrong country.
Posted 05/28 at 10:44 AM
Craig Calcaterra said...
I’m not buying that distinction, Jack. If anyone should understand that words matter, it’s a lawyer, and I find it dubious at best that you expect no action to be taken as a result of your words. You want people to shun certain players and certain writers based on their views of PEDs in baseball. You want them to vote their ethics (or your ethics) with their pocketbooks. If you don’t, you’ve wasted an obviously large amount of effort in what can only be described as persuasive writing and advocacy.
But even if I did buy your words/conduct distinction, to suggest that what Jason is doing is something far worse than offering an opinion is to discount as sheep anyone who votes the way he suggests they do. He’s not making anyone do anything. If people vote for Manny because of his site, it’s because they are convinced by his statement of purpose. All he has done is create a platform for that statement with a link to MLB’s voting page.
And I think you’re obligated to do more than to simply state that voting for Manny is “obnoxious and chaotic conduct.” Why is it so? He’s on the ballot. He’s eligible. Maybe he’s not worthy on the baseball merits, but baseball has never been too concerned with that when it comes to the All-Star game (see, Varitek, Jason in 2008).
If the response is that we should not honor a guy who broke the rules, one must ask why baseball hasn’t seen fit to make him ineligible for the game. Which, as he says, is Jason’s whole point to begin with.
Posted 05/28 at 10:48 AM
In my estimation, Jason’s not “screw(ing) up other people’s enjoyment for his own purposes”. He’s merely highlighting and exploiting flaw in the current MLB rules and ASG voting. By pointing this out and promoting it, hopefully there will be a change.
Settle down and unbunch your panties.
Posted 05/28 at 10:49 AM
The blog is, by design “screwing up” the All-Star game. That’s it’s sole purpose. So I don’t know why you had to put that in sneering quotes.
Really, though, I don’t think that there’s anything at all wrong with Manny being in the game (although there’s a LOT wrong with the media surrounding it). Manny’s obviously one of the greatest hitters of all time, and a very popular player. Yes, he’s out for 50 games this year, but I’m sure there’ve been lots of times when injured players got in, and there’ve definitely been times when players got in based upon popularity alone rather than their competitive merits.
So really, the only thing provocative about Manny being in the All-Star game is the media’s self-referential focus on their own hysterics. Because there’s no cause for outrage over his inclusion - certainly not when contrasted with some other dubious All-Star selections (Craig pointed out Varitek last year, and every year it seems there are four or give guys playing entirely because of their fame.)
Posted 05/28 at 11:19 AM