Should Short Pitchers Still Get Short Shrift?

Short pitchers like Tim Collins face more obstacles than tall pitchers like CC Sabathia. (via Keith Allison & Chris Ptacek)

Short pitchers like Tim Collins face more obstacles than tall pitchers like CC Sabathia. (via Keith Allison & Chris Ptacek)

Brandon Finnegan, who has introduced himself to baseball fans during the Royals’ postseason run, was the first player from the 2014 draft class to make to the majors. He was in the big leagues less than three months after being drafted, which rarely happens — players usually don’t get called up until at least the year after they’re drafted. The call-up is even more impressive when we consider Finnegan’s stature, as he stands under six feet tall. Pitchers under six feet rarely get drafted high (Finnegan was the 17th overall pick),  and they fight an uphill climb to get to the majors.

I am not the first to look at the possible biases based on pitcher height. Kevin Goldstein took a stab at the subject in 2008. Some of the best work though, was done by Glenn Greenburg for the Fall 2010 SABR Baseball Research Journal. He concluded:

The data speak for themselves. Baseball organizations have been scouting, signing, and developing players based on a fallacious assumption. Shorter pitchers are just as effective and durable as taller pitchers. If a player has the ability to get drafted, then he should be drafted in the round that fits his talent.

“The opportunity for major-league clubs is currently at its greatest potential. Clubs that value short pitchers with talent have an opportunity similar to those of clubs that, a decade or more ago, valued on-base percentage at a time when many of their competitors did not.”

I am not going to argue his point one bit. Instead, I am going to expand past draft picks and look at when and where the biases are more pronounced.

First, one caveat — the heights I use are from Major League Baseball data, which is provided by the teams. There is no good way to verify each of these. With pitchers knowing they need to be at least six feet (and probably taller) to fit the ideal pitcher mold, heights are often exaggerated. But while this puts us in a precarious position, it is also the only information available.

Second, taller pitchers are in theory better pitchers. Their release point is closer to the batter, giving him less time to make up his mind about a pitch, which makes the pitch harder to hit. In addition, taller pitchers may be able to generate more downward action on their pitches, which would make it harder to make solid contact. It is reasonable for the best five 6-foot-5 pitchers in the world to be better than the best five 6-foot-0 pitchers. The problem would be if shorter, better pitchers were passed on simply because of their stature.

To look at the data, I am going to start with draft and work my way up to the majors.

Warning: Tons of graphs are coming! I was torn about just summarizing the information or making it all available. I decided it’s better to make it all available, so people can examine the part(s) of the data they find most interesting.

Draft

The baseball draft is where scouts get to shine. Teams take their suggestions to help decide who to pick. When it comes to pitchers, they like to take the taller ones first. To show this bias, here is the average height per pitcher per round over of the years (2002 to 2012 data).

draftH_rough

There is a nice steady decline for the first few rounds and then the data gets a little bumpy. I have grouped every five rounds, when available, into one group to see if there is an overall trend:

draftH_5RA

What we find from this data is a steady decline in taller pitchers until the 10th round, when the pitcher heights stay generally constant until the 40th-50th rounds (when available). Height again becomes more of factor. As Glenn Greenburg noted above, teams may need to start looking at the production of the smaller pitchers and not look for the ideal height. Some of the transition is at work. I divided 11 years’ worth of data into two blocks — 2002 to 2007 and 2008 to 2012. The average height of the earlier group was 74.67 inches, and the latter group was 74.69 inches.  The one big difference is that while the tendency to take the taller pitcher exists, it has diminished a little in recent years. Here are the data grouped into five-round intervals:

TimeFrameDraft

Now, besides the average overall height, we can  group pitchers by their specific height, and see how many were taken in the same five-round intervals:

Draft_perc5roundGroups

Truthfully, I do not see any good trends, except that the number of 73-inch or shorter pitchers slowly moves up in the first 20 or so rounds.

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Let’s go one step further. It’s no secret that most talent in the draft comes from the first few rounds, so let’s break out the individual heights of pitchers drafted in the first five rounds:

Draft_HeightFirst5rounds

The only piece of information I would take from either graph is the rise in players taken 73 inc hes and under as the draft goes on (19 percent in round 1 to 29 percent in round 5) and the decline in players taken 76 inches and taller (43 percent in round 1 to 33 percent in round 5).

Overall, these data confirm our assessment that taller pitchers are more likely to be taken earlier in the draft. Now, let’s see if these taller pitchers are in fact more productive.

Minors

The low minors are filled with recent draftees. With the draft focusing on taller pitchers, we would expect more to be in the minors. We should expect them to be as productive as their shorter counterparts, but they are not. The short guys signficantly out-perform their taller brethren.

What I found going through the data was that bias against the short guys begins to diminish as they get close to the majors. One issue I had to tease out was a tendency for short pitchers to be in the bullpen rather than the starting rotation (more on this later). To show the bias trend, here are the ERA, runs allowed, strikeout percentage, base on balls percentage, and strikeout/walk ratio from Low A to the majors for starters and relievers.

Starters

LAs
As
HAs
AAs
AAAs
MLBs

Relievers

LAr
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HAr
AAr
AAAr
MLBr

The bias against drafting smaller pitchers is seen in all the levels of A-ball. Using 73 inches and and 76 inches as breaking points, here is how each of the three groups performed in the three levels of A-ball.

A-ball ERA for Starting Pitchers, By Height Groups, 2005-2012
Level <=73" 74″-75″ >=76″
Low-A 3.66 3.80 3.94
A-ball 3.86 3.99 3.97
High-A 4.17 4.28 4.27

The difference in ERA begins to lessen among the three levels, but is still noticeable. Once starting pitchers get to Triple-A (4.53 vs 4.50 vs 4.49) and the majors (4.22 vs 4.27 vs 4.21), the differences have all but vanished.

What I expect is happening is the cream is rising to the top, and that actual production is outweighing potential. The teams at the lower levels get the pitchers from the scouts and have to start to weed out the less qualified. One group of starters which seem to keep getting pushed forward even though their production is subpar is the tallest group; i.e.,  those at or taller than 76 inches. In Double-A, they have an ERA at 4.32, while the rest of the pitchers have a 4.09 ERA.

With relievers, the bias against short pitchers pretty much disappears immediately after Low-A. The one group of pitchers who are under-performing are the tallest pitchers (78 inches or more). What I bet is going on is that tall pitchers who should be relievers are not being moved to their ideal role, which is dragging both the starter and reliever values down.

Now with the production of pitchers at different heights equalizing once they make it to the majors, how does the mix of pitcher heights change in each level? Here is a graph that shows the difference, in percentage points, between innings started and innings relieved:

StartVsRel_perc

That the data merge near zero percent is interesting. In Low-A, there is about a 12 percentage point maximum difference between values for shorter pitchers. In the majors, the difference is half.

Prospect Rankings

From 2006 to present (the same period as the previous minor league and major league data), I looked at the average ranking of Baseball America’s top 100 prospects. We should expect all pitchers to average out at around No. 50, but that is not the always the case:

BAavgHeig

Note: The “all” line represents all rankings, even if the player was on the list multiple seasons. The “no repeats (max)” is the average of the best ranking of each pitcher on the list.

Pitchers under 72 inches and those over 77 inches average around a rank of 60. The 76- and 77-inch groups make up the difference. These pitchers get a little more love.

(I am not trying to pick on Baseball America in any way.  It has been doing an outstanding job and the longevity of its prospect rankings — BA has been publishing its top 100 list since the early ’90s — is the reason I am using its rankings.)

Time to take a step further and look at how the percentage of pitchers by height compares to the actual players at different levels. The values represent the percentage of innings pitched for each grouping (i.e. minor league level, BA rankings, etc.) by pitcher height relative to the major league average:

BArelative2MLB_prec

There is a definite dividing line at 75 inches. Baseball America has historically ranked more pitchers over 75 inches than ones under 75 inches when compared to the overall major league pitcher population.

Baseball America’s list is not about the general population, but the best players in the game. Maybe the pool of 6-foot-3 pitchers  just has better players. I took the list of ranked pitchers and found how they performed in the majors:

MLB Production of Pitchers Ranked in BA Top 100, by Height, 2005-2012
Height RA K%-BB%
<72" 3.90 13.30%
72″ 4.36 11.40%
73″ 4.54 9.50%
74″ 4.53 10.50%
75″ 4.37 10.80%
76″ 4.51 10.90%
77″ 4.52 11.30%
78″ 4.27 10.80%
>78″ 4.10 11.00%
Overall 4.41 10.90%

Of the pitchers who made it to the majors, the pitchers from 73 to 77 inches — 6-foot-1 to 6-foot-5 — performed significantly worse than their taller and shorter peers.

So when looking at the historic Baseball America top 100 lists, shorter pitchers — i.e. six feet tall or less — look to be underrepresented compared to the overall major league pitcher population and their production level.

Durability

One reason taller pitchers might be ranked higher is their perceived better durability. Using disabled list data from 2002 to 2013, I looked at the number of pitchers who went on the DL and grouped them by height. I looked at the average age (to see if one group took longer until they went on the DL), average number of days, the percentage of injured pitchers compared to the overall population and the production of the pitchers:

Disabled List data, by height, 2002-2013
Height Age Avg Days % of DL Trips % DL Trips > 90 days % of Pitchers RA K%-BB%
<72 30.3 61.2 6.6% 5.2% 3.1% 3.90 13.3%
72 30.0 61.2 12.3% 10.7% 12.2% 4.36 11.4%
73 29.4 65.3 12.4% 12.2% 12.2% 4.54 9.5%
74 30.3 65.1 17.5% 18.8% 17.4% 4.53 10.5%
75 29.4 68.5 19.3% 21.4% 18.7% 4.37 10.8%
76 29.7 64.2 14.5% 14.5% 14.1% 4.51 10.9%
77 29.9 61.3 9.2% 8.6% 8.8% 4.52 11.3%
78 28.9 73.1 4.3% 5.2% 5.8% 4.27 10.8%
>78 28.9 60.8 3.9% 3.4% 4.2% 4.10 11.0%
Overall 29.7 64.7 4.41 10.9%

Thoughts on the table:

  • Looking at the average age at which a player first goes on the DL, the taller the player, the earlier he is likely to go on the DL, with the overall range going from 28.9 to 30.3 years.
  • For the average number of days on the DL, the smaller pitchers (72 inches and less) spend less time one the DL. The shorter pitchers have less mass to heal.
  • The percentage of DL trips shows where the lack of respect for undersized pitchers has some foundation. Pitchers under six feet are more than twice as likely to end up on the DL as the overall population. Pitchers six feet or taller do not show much of a difference in health rate. In other words, the durability issue is non-existent for pitchers who are six feet or taller. One item to remember, though, about these more-likely-to-be-injured shorter pitchers is that they perform a half run better than their taller counterparts.

Conclusion

Shorter pitchers do not get as much credit for their ability as do taller pitchers. The bias starts in the draft, where taller pitchers are selected first. In the minors, the vertically challenged pitchers are underrepresented, but constantly put up better numbers. The difference in performance and role (starter vs reliever) diminishes as the pitcher moves closer to the majors. Even in the majors, the short pitchers outperform the rest. When looking at prospect rankings, the bias still exists. The one aspect in which shorter pitchers do not outperform is health. They are twice as likely to end up on the DL, and that’s significant.

So what does all the information mean? It seems to me that scouts, for both the draft and in prospect rankings, like the ideal taller pitcher, around 6-foot-3. Maybe it’s because taller pitchers, even though they are less productive, are commoner inthe majors.  When scouts make comparisons, they have a ton of tall-pitcher comps.  There aren’t many short pitchers, so the prospect just gets labeled “short.”  In addition, taller pitchers are more durable. Shorter pitchers need to perform significantly better to get the same draft consideration.

Once a pitcher is with a team, production becomes more important than height, but the bias still exists at all professional levels. Teams could use this known bias to their advantage and target shorter pitchers in drafts, free agency and trades. One such team that took a chance was the Royals with Finnegan. The Royals are being rewarded for their faith: Finnegan allowed just one run and struck out more than 35 percent of the batters he faced in critical innings during the Royals’ successful march to the postseason.


Jeff, one of the authors of the fantasy baseball guide,The Process, writes for RotoGraphs, The Hardball Times, Rotowire, Baseball America, and BaseballHQ. He has been nominated for two SABR Analytics Research Award for Contemporary Analysis and won it in 2013 in tandem with Bill Petti. He has won four FSWA Awards including on for his Mining the News series. He's won Tout Wars three times, LABR twice, and got his first NFBC Main Event win in 2021. Follow him on Twitter @jeffwzimmerman.
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asdf
9 years ago

Pedro Martinez wasn’t very tall, but he had no problem blowing away numerous batters with his outstanding changeup. However, maybe coincidentally, he wasn’t the most durable pitcher.
If he’d been taller, . . .

Rally
9 years ago

Pedro wasn’t as durable as Roger Clemens or Greg Maddux, but he was still in the upper end of durability among pitchers. Compare him to a Mark Prior or Rich Harden and its no contest. He outlasted Roy Halladay, who was generally considered very durable until he suddenly wasn’t.

Only 162 pitchers threw more career innings than Pedro, Pedro had a 12 year stretch where he was good for 29 starts and 180 innings in 11 of them. Not a super durable guy, but still well above average in that regard.

Joe
9 years ago
Reply to  Rally

Greg maddux and Pedro were pretty much the same size. I think durability all depends on if the player can handle the workload. That 12 year stretch you’re talking about, Pedro had 7 years over 200+ innings and he had one year when he was a reliever.

Aaron
9 years ago

The one thing that isn’t covered is loss of velocity. I would be curious at which rate tall vs short pitchers start losing velocity (Tim Lincecum comes to mind here). It wouldn’t be covered in DL visits etc.

obsessivegiantscompulsive
9 years ago
Reply to  Aaron

A mitigating factor is the news he let out in an SI interview last fall after the playoffs: he has not been working with his dad regarding his mechanics since the 2009 season, or for five seasons. He acknowledged that he can’t do it without his father, so the two of them reconciled over the off-season and worked in a rented warehouse on returning his mechanics back to where his father thinks it should be.

And while outside observers will just look at his overall numbers and say that he wasn’t effective at all the past three seasons, close Giants observers will know that Lincecum was Dr. Big Time Jimmy Tim and Mr. Lincecon each season. Basically, if you break down his recent poor seasons, it can be mostly broken down into two parts: when he’s on and when he’s off. And he was on for long stretches each season. For example, last season, after a few clunky starts to begin the season, where he looked like he was experimenting with reducing his walks to zero, he ran off an 18 start stretch where he had a 3.11 ERA, which is very good, ending with his save in that 18 inning game, leaving him with a 3.65 ERA a little after the All-Star break. Unfortunately, that save seemed to knock him out of his rhythm and he was horrible for the rest of the season, leading to his poor seasonal numbers.

So it will be interesting to see how he fares this season, both in terms of velocity and performance. Will he see an uptick in velocity? So far this spring, I’ve not seem much about his velocity, so at best, he’s holding his own, about the same as last season. Which is good, he’s been dropping steadily the past few seasons. A plus is that he’s striking out guys a lot so far, something that he was able to do until the 2014 season, when he dropped to merely good, instead of very good.

Still, he says he’s not looking for velocity, per se, but more life in his pitches, which he says he’s seeing. His father too has been happy this spring, and so has other Giants observers, like Mike Krukow.

Another key thing is that Lincecum never really learned his mechanics from his dad before, he relied on him to remind him, then after they stopped working together, he tried to find it from memory. But obviously mostly failed. As part of their work this off-season, he’s not only returning to the mechanics as taught by his dad, but he’s learning it, instead of relying on his dad. Thus, he should be able to self-adjust during the season in-game or even in-batter, instead of having a bad game or series of starts, until his dad can help him get the kinks out. Because, even during his Cy Young years, he had a month here and there where he was totally lost, before finding his way back (and back then, his dad worked and couldn’t be with him always to coach his mechanics; but now retired, he theoretically could fly in as needed).

So we will see this season how successful all these changes are. I think he should have a good enough season (remember, he was 3.11 over 18 starts) where he will be one of the players we don’t have to worry about again.

obsessivegiantscompulsive
9 years ago
Reply to  Aaron

Another note about Lincecum. Even with all his problems lately, he still says that he does not ice his arm after starts. Will be interesting to see if he can continue this in his career.

Sean L.
9 years ago

I believe there are a couple of things that have to be considered when looking at this data. First, it could be possible that only the very best short pitchers are drafted, i.e. pitchers with superior skill compared to tall pitchers. That may be the point of the article, but I’m thinking that the stats that the short pitchers produce will be better because they are clearly better pitchers than the taller drafted pitchers. I suppose this is selection bias.
Secondly, I would expect the taller pitchers to have worse stats because they are given more chances to fail. A taller pitcher will be given more time to develop and fail compared to a short pitcher because coaches and scout will dream on their physical potential. Sort of like a guy that throws really hard will be given more chances to fail than a guy who throws soft.
I think I agree that short pitchers should be drafted and developed more than they are, but I think there are too many problems with the data you used to support all of your conclusions.

Psy Jung
9 years ago
Reply to  Sean L.

I think he’s concluding more or less exactly what you concluded. The production gap between short and tall pitchers is being presented as proof of selection bias, not as an argument that short pitchers are inherently better and teams should give them all the money.

dominik
9 years ago

When we talk about durability I would be interested not only in injuries but in velocity retention as they get older. even if they don’t get injured many short flame throwers tend to lose velocity in their early 30s while guys who throw 95+ at over 35 are very often rather tall guys (randy johnson, nolan ryan).

shorter pitchers will need more explosive leg work and more hip-shoulder separation to throw 95+ than tall pitchers and that is something that is hard to maintain. on the other hand if you are really tall you can throw hard more “easily” (still not easy of course) thus being able to throw that stuff longer.

randy johnson certainly was an exeption but he could throw 100 in his late 30s. short flame throwers like lincecum however tend to lose their velocity already in their early 30s. even pedro as great as he was lost a lot of velocity in his early 30s and he was given a lot more rest than randy or maddux even during his prime.

kevin
9 years ago

very good research.
thank you.
a weird, though not dumb, thought–track pitchers by height & by how successful they were as position players/hitters.
either in college, or high school; taller ones tend to be viewed as better overall athletes.
higher draft position, and some confusion on the drafting team’s part on what to do with them (see the pirates through the 1995-2010 period).

obsessivegiantscompulsive
9 years ago

Great analysis, very interesting!

About the delay in moving taller pitchers into relief roles in the lower minors, I would add that the general thought is that they take longer to develop, and thus why they might get promoted and stay a starter despite not as sterling performances. And thus why the latter rounds of the draft take a turn upward in height, as teams start to pull in these longer term (and thus greater risks of failure) projects into their farm systems. Kind of similar to what happens in the middle rounds, as teams start to pull in shorter pitchers, where there is greater risk of injury (per general thought and as shown here by your analysis).

I’ve often wondered about this after the whole Lincecum draft avoidance. So I’ve been waiting for analysis like this. It is interesting that you were able to show that injuries are more common among shorter pitchers, but one thing that would be interesting to see is when these injuries crop up. If their health is generally the same as taller pitchers during their first 6-7 years in the majors, then teams would know that drafting more of them is a better strategy but that perhaps giving them long-term deals or re-signing them when they go free agency is not so good a strategy. And if they are unhealthy from the get go, that is important to know too, then perhaps they are factoring in this important factor when they are drafting pitchers.

And you should give the Giants a shout out too for ignoring the crowd and thinking differently, as well as credit the Royals for learning their lesson there (they strongly considered Lincecum but ultimately passed) and getting the shorter pitcher, in spite of his height. In fact, the expert opinion back then thought that the Giants would pass on Lincecum too, as the general thought was that Tidrow only had love for the perfect pitching body and thus go for someone else like Bard in that draft. But according to later interviews, Tidrow loved Lincecum so much that he asked Sabean to not show up to view Lincecum, in order to not tip to other teams the Giants interest in drafting him. And they continue to ignore the common wisdom, they drafted an undersized guy in Martin Agosta just the other season with their second round pick. In fact, I have noticed that they draft shorter and taller pitchers frequently.

One thought about the results here is whether the higher performances for shorter players comes from selection bias. Could teams be giving shorter players a higher bar just to get into a farm system, to get drafted? And thus the higher performance results because the shorter players who might also be average or less (and thus bring down the overall performance) are not even given the chance to do that in the minors, they are automatically denied the opportunity to be average because they have no “projection” as determined by scouts? But if so, then just going out and drafting more shorter pitchers is not necessarily game changing, though perhaps it will result in more mid-rotation types, which would extend the rotation deeper.

Another thought is that the odds of a drafted player just making the majors declines greatly just within the first round, and particularly so if you filter only for good players. So, I understand why you wanted to look at the first five rounds, to get a bigger sample size, but I would also like to see what your data says about only first round picks. And if possible, by picks 1-10, 11-20, 21-30, as even within the first round, there are steep declines in success rates there.

Mike
9 years ago

Am I missing something?

MLB pitchers 6’2″ and under are as good as pitchers 6’3″ and over.

Pitchers 6’2″ and over outnumber pitchers 6’3″ and over by a HUGE margin. In fact in the general population that disparity is 25 to 1.

Thus all things being equal a tall pitcher is much more likely to finally attain MLB skills than a shorter pitcher.

Why? Greater “plane,” closer release point, longer fingers for more movement, greater overall strength and more reliability.

I think they the MLB knows exactly what it is doing with the pitching height “bias” and that that trend won’t change.

Mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Did you read the article? If those things you mention were true (better plane, closer to the plate, etc.), then the taller pitchers would have lower ERA, higher strikeouts per 9 innings, and better strikeout to walk ratio. THEY DO NOT! Here’s another article making exactly the same point . . . there is no correlation between pitcher height and effectiveness or durability. http://sabr.org/research/does-pitcher-s-height-matter
The whole point of the article is that coaches are unreasonably biased to taller pitchers when the data does not support such a bias. You can try to explain why a taller pitcher should be better, but the data says that they are not better, possibly even worse.