Trousers and Hot Tubs

I won’t link to the original source because there’s some arguably not safe for work stuff there, but the website has Brian McNamee making the whole Clemens affair sound even seedier than it already did:

One of the needles I gave the government was used to inject Clemens with steroids in either July or August of 2001,” McNamee was quoted as saying by in an item posted Wednesday. “The place was his high-rise apartment, which is located off the corner of 90th Street and First Avenue in Manhattan.

“That day, he laid out the drugs, dropped his trousers and I did as he asked, that is, inject him with steroids. Afterwards, he told me to get rid of the needle. I went into the kitchen and found an empty Miller Lite can in a wastebasket under the sink. I put the used needle into the can because it was actually hazardous material at that point and I didn’t want anyone to get hurt by sticking themselves. He told me to throw it away but I kept it instead”. . .

. . . McNamee previously described injecting Clemens at the pitcher’s apartment to baseball investigator George Mitchell. In addition, he told the Web site: “Sometimes it was in the Jacuzzi at Yankee Stadium.”

Can someone please put a gag order on everyone who has ever been within 15 feet of Roger Clemens? Because I really don’t think I can handle much more of this.

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  1. Chris H. said...

    Jason, can you explain that to us non-New-York types?  I wanna get the reference, I wanna I wanna!

  2. Aaron Moreno said...

    I still don’t know what the hell a borough is. Is it a city or just a suburb? A suburban city?

  3. Craig Calcaterra said...

    Yeah, Jason: Isn’t 90th and 1st the upper east side?  Where does the exlusive part of that area end?

    As for boroughs, I was pretty sure that was the Spanish word for donkey.  If I’m wrong about that too, Jason, please let us know. wink

  4. Vin said...

    90th and 1st is fairly exclusive, but not quite $23-million-per-year exclusive. The UES of the super-rich is generally below 86th St. and between the Park and 3rd Avenue (maybe even Lexington).

    Not to say that the area around isn’t exclusive, too. It’s just, let’s say, super-exclusive as opposed to super-duper exclusive.

    Oh, and Aaron, a borough is just a name for the administrative divisions in the city. All the boroughs were in fact independent prior to consolidation in 1898. They are all separate counties, even to this day, and prior to consolidation most of them contained more than one municipality, actually.

    OK, I’m done now smile

  5. Jason @ IIATMS said...

    Sorry guys….

    That is part of the upper east side.  From the mid 60’s, east of 5th to the East River, up to about 96th street is the “upper east side”.  It’s more exclusive closer to 5th ave.  Moving east from 5th, it goes down in price (though still VERY pricey), then up right along the East River for the views. 

    In order, heading East: 5th, Madison, Park, Lexington, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, York, East End Ave.  The further north you go, the cheaper it gets.  96th Street is sort of the dividing line between Manhattan and the beginning of Harlem.  There’s a huge building complex right around 96th and 2nd that was the hugely popular as it was a nice complex and somewhat affordable for the 20-somethings.  Though, I remember hearing the urban myths that there were more than a few windows shot out. 

    90th and 1st is an area that’s wildly popular with college grads who can afford it.  Of course, I’m old and it probably changed.  It’s also less commercial the further east you go.  Along York and East End Ave is quite neighborhoody.  For years, I lived on 72nd and York (one of the very few cul de sac’s in Manhattan).  Was also across the street from where Cory Lidle crashed.  It was a nice area but not convenient for those who need the subway (don’t ask me to map that!)

    South of the mid 60’s until the lower 50’s is Midtown East.  Much more commercial than the upper east side.

    Jeter, David Wells and a bunch of others once lived in the 70s on the East Side but I don’t know where Jeter lives these days.

    The East Side is also more convenient to get to the Stadium.

    Why Clemens didn’t have a place overlooking Central Park or something surprised me.  Unless, he had the whole penthouse floor or something equally ridiculous.

    Does that explain the geography of Manhattan’s East Side?  See me for extra credit, class.

  6. Jason @ IIATMS said...

    And yes, the borough of Manhattan doesn’t consider any of the other boroughs part of NYC.  If you aren’t in Manhattan, you are from the “outer boroughs”, or part of the B&T;(bridge and tunnel) crowd.  Derogatory terms, to be sure.  NYers didn’t wrongly get their snobbery title.

    In other words, if you aren’t in Manhattan, you are a country bumpkin, or just a wannabe.  The worst of them call everything outside NYC “upstate”, even if it’s Westchester, where I am, 30 minutes drive time from midtown.

  7. YankeesfanLen said...

    I can’t imagine how I’m viewed in Bergen County (thankfully, next to Iowa, not Lodi).
    BTW, Craig, what happened last Fri- you left us in suspense.

  8. Craig Calcaterra said...

    Len—if you’re referring to my hearing, it was anti-climatic.  We show up, other side shows up, and then instead of the judge, the law clerk comes out and says that the whole thing was being converted into an impromptu status/settlement conference because the Judge was stuck in a jury trial.  And for that I wore a suit on jeans day.

    Rescheduled for this Friday, so we get to do it all over again.

    Did I mention that the law often sucks?

  9. Ralph said...

    Jason, Jeter lives in Trump World Tower on 1st Ave across from the UN.  IIRC, ARod lives in the same building.

    I’d bet that Clemens had a whole floor on one of those highrises that are up there.  That’s the only reason that I can come up with for why he’d be living up there.

    And yes, anything north of the Bronx is “upstate”.

  10. Jason @ IIATMS said...

    Alex: I work out here on Lon Gisland.  (Spelling intentional).

    You’re part of the B&T;crowd.  Just like Joisey.

  11. Aaron Moreno said...

    So, are they administrative portions of the city, or are they counties? I mean, I live in a city, and it’s in a county.

  12. Vin said...

    They’re administrative divisions of the city, really. The counties don’t matter much.

    The system is kind of strange, but it’s basically a vestige of the fact that what is today the five boroughs of New York City were once five separate counties with a number of different jurisdictions. So now there’s boroughs and the city. The boroughs have very little power, though.

    Oh, and as a lifelong outer-borough guy, I’ve never considered that phrase an insult. Even “B&T;” isn’t necessarily an insult, depending on the context. And Westchester isn’t upstate, but everything north of it is.

  13. J. McCann said...

    I think New York must be the only city that contains five counties.  There are (were?) some odd powerful committees that had one vote per borough, but I think they have been declared unconstitutional.

    That’s messed up that people in Manhattan describe their city as “New York”, while each of the other boroughs use the borough name as the city on envelopes.

    In some areas of Staten Island there are so many trees or grassland, that you really can’t believe you are still in NYC.  Not fair that they left Staten Island out of GTA4.

  14. Alex K said...

    Jason: I would have gone with Looon Gisland.  As a non-native I find the accent just as awful as everyone else.

  15. Melody said...

    I lived in Queens for five years, and some of our Manhattan friends never once made it out to our place—we always had to come in to see them in Manhattan!  This even though we lived in Astoria, which is easily 20 minutes from midtown on the train.  AND we were just 2 blocks from the famous outdoor Beer Garden.

    Everyone else has explained the boroughs/counties stuff… the other funny thing is that some of the counties are named differently from the boroughs.
    Staten Island = Richmond County
    Manhattan = New York County
    Brooklyn = Kings County
    Queens = Queens County
    The Bronx (gotta have the definite article in there) = Bronx County

    Plus there are all kinds of names within each borough—in Queens (alone of all the boroughs), it wasn’t “Queens” that went on our envelopes, but the name of the local municipality where we lived (Astoria, Woodside, Flushing, etc). 

    NYC is crazy.

  16. Bill B. said...

    Re: McNamee, am I the only one who finds it odd that he just decided to keep the used needle? At that time, what reason did he have to keep it, since he obviously couldn’t see into the future and know that that needle would actually be crucial evidence in a federal case against Clemens?

    Everything about these steroid witch hunts reeks of foul play.

  17. Vin said...

    J. McCann: You are referring to the Board of Estimate, under which each borough president received one vote. Seeing as the boroughs have vastly different populations (Brooklyn, the most populated, has about 2.5m people, Staten Island, the least, has about 500k), the body was ruled unconstitutional for violating the principle of proportional representation. I have no qualm with that in and of itself, but it’s kind of ironic that the Senate – an established constitutional body – does exactly the same thing. Wyoming has two senators, and a population roughly equal to that of Staten Island.

    Melody: Queens is the only borough where they do that – address mail to “Astoria, NY” or “Flushing, NY,” etc. It’s always perplexed me, and I’ve never known why. Though Manhattan and the Bronx both use county names for mail (New York, NY; Bronx, NY), and SI and Brooklyn use boroughs (Staten Island, NY; Brooklyn, NY). Now that I think of it, that’s pretty weird, too.

    OK, I’m having WAY too much fun talking about New York minutae. I should get back to work (and stop boring people).

  18. Dr Paisley said...

    There’s an incredibly tasteless joke somewhere in all this about the subsection of NYC where lives the specialist everyone goes to for circumcsions, and he’s known as the Mohel Borough Man, but it’s more work than I’m willing to do at this point.

  19. Evan said...

    So half a mile away from me seven-plus years ago, that happened? The fun stuff always closer than I think. :(

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