1. TUCK! said...

    @Jim C: Unsure of me needing whine in STL (or anywhere else),  but I’d take Halladay (or, really, anyone)(note the newspaper in panel 2) if he *deserved* it. Lincecum had a fine season last year but did not receive the most Cy Young 1st place votes, and didn’t lead in wins or ERA. You know, just like this year (so far). Still, thanks for posting!

  2. Jason B said...

    Wins?  Really? 

    Are people *still* getting bent about the Cy young voting from last year?  Damn shame when someone with a legitimate case wins.  Damn shame.

    Al Gore won in 2000, dammit!!!!1!

    This year’s NL Cy race should be fantastic, and close, again.  I’m expecting Ubaldo, Halladay, and Johnson as top three in some order, with Wainwright 4th.

  3. Wayne H said...

    No mention of Latos I see. When will the work he has done for the “best in the NL” Padres get any kind of notice?

  4. Adam H said...

    Yeah, yeah Jason, the whining about last year’s Cy Young is kind of stupid.  The whining about the 2000 election wasn’t nearly loud enough.  (Either for the Dems insanly stupid only recount a few precincts strategy or the Florida Black people are all felons who can’t vote strategy or for the Supreme Court, to hell with the law, Bush is President decision).  I hate to get into political crap here, one was a trophy, the other was one of the most horrifying turn of events in the history of U.S. elections.

  5. Jason B said...

    I know, I know…one group’s “horrifying” trampling of the Constitution is another group’s careful, measured, and thoughtful response that best serves the interests of the voting populace and the founding fathers.  “To hell with the law” huh. *Snicker*.

    When it’s all said and done, the side who’s man “won” would found a way to support and defend the ruling, and the side who “lost” would find a way to question and dismiss the ruling.  It’s just that simple.  One side – the losing side -was *always* going to accuse the other of rigging/highjacking/usurping or various other high crimes against humanity. 

    At the end of the day, both sides wanted them to count, and recount, and count again, until they got the ONE result that they wanted, then immediately stop counting and declare *their guy* the winner.  Can we be adult enough to admit that?

    We use our reasoning powers to fight like hell to reach the conclusion that we want to reach to begin with, and then support it with every ounce of our being, no?  =)

  6. Jim C said...

    Now that we have gone down this road, it’s time for me to throw my gauntlet down. When a key element of one political party’s election strategy is to suppress the vote, that party ceases to be, and I’m sure you’ll pardon the pun here, “democratic.” The 2000 election was stolen, as wa 2004, and we all know who got richer because of it, and who got screwed.

  7. Jason B said...

    “The 2000 election was stolen, as was 2004, and we all know who got richer because of it, and who got screwed.”

    A) Just as I said, we find the outcome we want and rationalize it. The other side plays so unfairly!!1!  Never mind voting irregularities and fraud helped both sides in different precincts. I think the simpler explanation is a massive state was basically a 50/50 split, and someone had to lose.  Which guaranteed one candidate, one party, would bitch about it after. (Although I never thought it would last a full decade after?)

    B) 2004? Really now. Tin-foil helmet time. I know, I know, we can trot out our websites (totally unbiased, I’m sure! No agendas there)  with “proof” of fraud and missing ballots and intimidation in Grandma’s precinct in Anytown, Ohio. And conveniently forget the other side has their own “proof” of irregularities and fraud, etc.  We can find a way to ignore or dismiss those, I’m sure.

    We have *such* a hard time dealing with defeat, and things not turning out like we wanted. 

    And letting go…

    (But at least it’s all been roses since we got the “right” outcome in 2008!)  =)

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